Rumors...

[somethingorother]

I heard that somewhere Gaile said that they are adding new ways to enter the elite missions so that they will be available to all. Is any of this actually true?

[Zaxares]

Gaile has stated that ANet are looking at alternate means of access to the Elite missions. This does NOT imply that they will be open to everybody (because that would destroy the 'exclusive' feel of the place), but that it may be easier to access the Elite missions. How exactly remains to be seen.

[SteveLord]

if you actually read the gaile log or even the summary.....you'd see that it isnt a rumor.

[aldarionteluvetar]

Gaile has stated that ANet are looking at alternate means of access to the Elite missions. This does NOT imply that they will be open to everybody (because that would destroy the 'exclusive' feel of the place), but that it may be easier to access the Elite missions. How exactly remains to be seen.

Actually, Gaile said believes that there should be some form of access that makes it available to every player:
http://forums.gwonline.net/showthread.php?t=398729&page=6&highlight=elite+mission

As of yet we don't know what they're planning on doing, only that there will be alternative access, like you said Zaxares. I wonder when the use the term "alternative," whether that means in a method in addition to the current method, or an alternative method that will replace the current one.

[ultimastrike]

Obviously the reason Anet wants to give us an alternate means of accessing the elite missions is BECAUSE...

Drum roll please...

... They are unhappy that TC and company are ferrying us to the Deep, and rather than just take ferry capability away and risk a huge public outcry, they're going to take ferry capability away and give us some crappy pay 1 plat to enter statue or something.

[neoteo]

i know there are other threads about this .. just want to say , i hope its not a pay 1 plat to get in becose that is way too easy

i would like something elite , like only for those who have at least the smalest title of elite skills

i only have 30 elite skills unlock , and i know we need 90 for that
so dont think im saying this becose i have that title

i would like it to be a place where we go and know for sure there are experienced players

that would be ultra great

[Billed]

They remove the ferry, make you pay 1k, and this money goes to whoever is holding cavalon at the time :)

[Cerulean Niteshadow]

Since this isnt the thread for the debate on how they are going to change access to the elites I will say that Yes Gaile has commented on that topic and it is in her logs and on Milias page of Gaile sightings.

[Lady Argent]

Obviously the reason Anet wants to give us an alternate means of accessing the elite missions is BECAUSE...

Drum roll please...

... They are unhappy that TC and company are ferrying us to the Deep, and rather than just take ferry capability away and risk a huge public outcry, they're going to take ferry capability away and give us some crappy pay 1 plat to enter statue or something.

Considering what was going on while HzH was being held by a particular guild, I see remving the ferries as a good thing. Currently, most players get access to the elite missions purely by the good graces of whoever is holding it. If an alliance decides they're going to charge a heavy toll (10k or 100k, 50% of your drops, etc.), there is currently nothing preventing them from doing that.

[Drec Sutal]

They remove the ferry, make you pay 1k, and this money goes to whoever is holding cavalon at the time :)

Heh, I actually wouldn't mind that... max alliance size is 1000, so 1 gold to me for every person anywhere who enters? a plat or so free a day, at least... that would be interesting, certainly.

[neoteo]

yes , defenatly a good option , im collecting the good ideas , might make another pool in one or two weeks depending if the actual lives or dies , or if another one apears from someone else

pool here -> http://forums.gwonline.net/showthread.php?t=401910

[LunarEffect]

I heard theres an alternative way to get to the UW as well in the southern shiverpeaks. Anyone seen that one yet or heard anything about it?

[thazel]

Yes, in Lornar's pass there is a Statue of Grenth that takes you to the underworld.

[neoteo]

you need favor any way

that temple S/W of ventary as a stutue , once i was there chilling and we gain favor , it was a espectacular moment , seeing the statue become a flash light inside the temple , being full of fire flames.

we paid to remove dp and gain morale

[Gaile]

Obviously the reason Anet wants to give us an alternate means of accessing the elite missions is BECAUSE...

Drum roll please...

... They are unhappy that TC and company are ferrying us to the Deep, and rather than just take ferry capability away and risk a huge public outcry, they're going to take ferry capability away and give us some crappy pay 1 plat to enter statue or something.No, we are not unhappy with that at all! Whatever gave you that impression!? I think--and I'm sure the majority if not all of the team feel--that the ferrying is a wonderful community-spirited project!

[Zingeri]

No, we are not unhappy with that at all! Whatever gave you that impression!? I think--and I'm sure the majority if not all of the team feel--that the ferrying is a wonderful community-spirited project!So, then, tell me, Gaile...

What was the originial intention of the Elite Mission control system?

If Alliances could ferry people into the Elite Missions, then what's the original point during developing of requiring control of HzH or Cavalon?

I know ArenaNet has said they will try to fix the system. But what was the original idea behind ferrying?

[Vyral]

An idea that may or may not be uber complicated, might involve having the NPC gate guard give the controlling Alliance Leader an option: allow access or restrict access.

For those alliances that are willing to ferry in people, they could choose the "allow access" option and the NPC would ferry people in. That would free up the "lf ferry to deep" messages and the annoyance to those actually in the alliance. Those who do not have a free ferry policy could choose the option "restrict access"

[neoteo]

No, we are not unhappy with that at all! Whatever gave you that impression!? I think--and I'm sure the majority if not all of the team feel--that the ferrying is a wonderful community-spirited project!

totaly agree

and i can anser your question Zingeri

the point is alliences gain good reputation by shiping people

all people that have shiped me to elite missions are on my friends list , and i respect them as being godly persons.

[Skye Marin]

Owning a town, especially Cavalon or Zu Heltzer, gets your guild name out there and gives you the warm fuzzy feelings that you can't buy with gold.

It gets you respect.

[Tharkun Greyhame]

If Alliances could ferry people into the Elite Missions, then what's the original point during developing of requiring control of HzH or Cavalon?

I think you're assuming too much from Gaile's words. Ferrying may not have been intended, or even forseen (though I imagine they're not that clueless), but just because something unexpected happens doesn't mean that you automatically disapprove of it. The team may not have planned that the city owners would open up the Elite areas, but it is awfully nice of them to do so, it doesn't seriously break anything (except maybe expectations), and therefore the developers are happy.

Or they may have done it on purpose and never intended for the Alliance control to be overly restrictive, but more of just a fun point of pride for alliances to strive for. Who knows; I'm not psychic.

[Spanks]

An idea that may or may not be uber complicated, might involve having the NPC gate guard give the controlling Alliance Leader an option: allow access or restrict access.

For those alliances that are willing to ferry in people, they could choose the "allow access" option and the NPC would ferry people in. That would free up the "lf ferry to deep" messages and the annoyance to those actually in the alliance. Those who do not have a free ferry policy could choose the option "restrict access"

I agree, it's getting so irritating having to put up with "LF Taxi" "I Need a Taxi plz" "Anyone from (Alliance) here as I need to get to Elite Mission NOW" messages that continually spams as thats all the chat channel consists of in Cavalon and HzH.

Wait for an invite people FFS and stop the spam :angry:

[neoteo]

I agree, it's getting so irritating having to put up with "LF Taxi" "I Need a Taxi plz" "Anyone from (Alliance) here as I need to get to Elite Mission NOW" messages that continually spams as thats all the chat channel consists of in Cavalon and HzH.

Wait for an invite people FFS and stop the spam :angry:

" coff "

in a million+ gamers comunity you have to deal with people , they want a taxi , they spam , the same way people spam to get in partys or sell items ( i dont agree with sellings on ALL tab ).

[xXBinaryXx]

" coff "

in a million+ gamers comunity you have to deal with people , they want a taxi , they spam , the same way people spam to get in partys or sell items ( i dont agree with sellings on ALL tab ).

Yeah but if everyone took that "defeatist" attitude then nothing would be suggested, nothing would be done :huh:

We're overrun with Bots - deal with it
The Skills are unbalanced - deal with it
I keep getting Error 7's - deal with it

You see? Not having a go but if people want to suggest solutions and not just accept its the case - do something about it :soapbox:

[Melly]

If this is true then some other incentive to hold House or Cavalon would need to be added. Otherwise, what's the point?

[Azgalon]

Cheaper Vendors, Better prices from Merchants?

[Don Zardeone]

A 20% rebate from a single merchant.

20% off of your salvage kits isn't worth the 20mil worth of amber your alliance could have gotten if they hadn't donated it for standing.

[igmudig]

Maybe a faction payment system, 5k Lux or Kur faction to get to the elite if not part of the controlling alliance?

[Azgalon]

Maybe each Alliance that has donated so and so much faction will get access to it?

Then many Alliances will be able to enter at their own leisure.