Invinci-Trapper - because we can!

[Notorious BOB]

The discussion on Vermin trapping etc. spurred me on to have a fool around with a few things. The biggest problem with the Vermin is that you don't want to get hit, I guess that's true of all trapping.

So, I present the Invinci-Trapper!

This is just for a bit of fun and shows what you can do....

The build - R/E

Troll Unguent
Nest of Vipers
Flame Trap
Barbed Trap
Dust Trap
Serpent's Quickness
Whirling Defences
{Mist Form} elite

Attributes

Expertise 11+3 = 14
Wilderness 8+3+1 = 12
Water Magic 11

Item's

You'll need a Staff of Enchanting that also has an Energy mod. I was using Jayne's Staff which has both of these.

At 11 Water Magic, Mist Form lasts for 17 seconds + 20% = 20 secs. With SQ it takes 20 seconds to recharge so you should be able to keep it up indefinately. The Whirling Defences is there just as cover if you need it.

What this means in reality is that you should never take damage! You can still get poisoned, wounded, crippled, knockdown etc. (which are still a pain against vermin) but against things like Jade Knights they cannot touch you.

So, against pure aggro groups you can just stand there and laugh!

Without Spike trap, damage output is a bit less and hits through Mist Form still interrupt. That's when WD comes in handy for an extra trap or two.

Anyway, enjoy the vid, this build is still a work in progress and not presented as any sort of Holy Grail, it's just a bit of fun.

http://www.beyond-the-rim.demon.co.uk/pics/Invinci-Ranger.wmv

BOB

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[Kendra Ardesh]

Hmmm.. they must have changes mistform, cus I tried that combo awhile ago and was always being interupted (just not taking damage).

[Vallen Frostweaver]

What about enchantment removal? I find many areas do this in the high end game. Perhas a cover enchant to help out?

[simoon]

hey but u know if u use wd it messes up ur serpentquickness+misftform cycle and u could die if theres many mobs hitting u

[Facet of Strength]

Invinci Trapper: Thats what brian bontano do ! :P

[Madnapali]

youre an effing genious bob.

not because of the build, because of the song.

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[andrewf]

You're T3h Genius!

[Calynda Danyciar]

it only is invincible with thoose melee/bow attacks , if you are hit with a spell like Lightning orb you just take dmg, mist form doesn't prevent that!
And why whirling defence? if you have mist form :rolleyes:

[andrewf]

it only is invincible with thoose melee/bow attacks , if you are hit with a spell like Lightning orb you just take dmg, mist form doesn't prevent that!
And why whirling defence? if you have mist form :rolleyes:

Mist Form is an enchantment, Whirling Defense is a stance.
if they're used together, then you will be seriously 100% invincible

[Masoj Hunett]

Mist Form is an enchantment, Whirling Defense is a stance.
if they're used together, then you will be seriously 100% invincible


1) putting whirling defense on with mistform is completely useless.
2) you can still get hit with spells and also get mistform taken off with enchant removals, so you are 100% wrong.

This build is great as long as you are only fighting assassins, warriors, or rangers.

[Calynda Danyciar]

This build is great as long as you are only fighting assassins, warriors, or rangers.

That was my point to;) just for troll farming and stuff, not every area

[Super Kenny]

Haha, loving the music.

South Park FTW

[ShadowKntSDS]

Teh Awesome!!!

[andrewf]

1) putting whirling defense on with mistform is completely useless.
2) you can still get hit with spells and also get mistform taken off with enchant removals, so you are 100% wrong.

This build is great as long as you are only fighting assassins, warriors, or rangers.

i just got pwned =(

Trapper is pretty much dedicated to kill close range mobs...

leave the long range ones to Barragers like me =D

[jvxmtg]

If you know how to use Shadow Form well, I think you're better off with it than Mist Form.

[andrewf]

If you know how to use Shadow Form well, I think you're better off with it than Mist Form.

You have to deal with its massiev damage after... and 1 hit from those vermin then its gg for you =D

[Notorious BOB]

1) putting whirling defense on with mistform is completely useless.
2) you can still get hit with spells and also get mistform taken off with enchant removals, so you are 100% wrong.

This build is great as long as you are only fighting assassins, warriors, or rangers.

Err, no you're completely missing the point (and also being quite rude).

1. Mist From prevents damage but you still get hit. That means trap skills will be interrupted. Whirling Defences is there as a cover because it blocks the attacks allowing you to lay traps and recast MF without being interrupted.

2. WTF are you doing trying to trap spellcasters? The whole thing about trapping is to trap aggro mobs (i.e. those warrior and assassin types) who you can pull to your traps. All this 'talk' that the build doesn't work against spellcasters or enchantment strippers is totally irrelevant.

Oh, and I think I pretty much said all of this in the original post...

BOB

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[Notorious BOB]

hey but u know if u use wd it messes up ur serpentquickness+misftform cycle and u could die if theres many mobs hitting u

It would if you miss-use it. Only use WD as cover if you need to lay a couple more traps to kill a straggler. WD will stop Serpent's as they are both stances, but Mist Form and Serpents should both have recharged anytime you need to use the Whirling.

So, under Whirling you can recast Serpents and Mist Form as needed. As you should pretty much have the job done, just casting the MF should be enough as you shouldn't need the fast recharge.

In most cases you don't need to use the WD though as damage output + poison is enough to kill a lot of enemies.

ta da!

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[andrewf]

i KNEW i was right! har..


Its kinda pointless arguing with Notorious BOB here.. he is one of the great solo trapper existed after all...

[Notorious BOB]

If you know how to use Shadow Form well, I think you're better off with it than Mist Form.

Funny you should say that.... watch this space :smiley:

[dgwnitro]

Err guys, the skill used by the vermin to get u knocked down is a SPELL so doesn't it ignore mistform and just interrupt you? If so, gg sorry m8

[Mistress Jakira]

BOB, I love all your videos! :laughing: Another poster said it best--you're one of the great solo trappers ;) And of course, your choice of music is impeccable and hilarious. Loooove it. Wish I were a better trapper, but I've had some good times with it thanks to you :grin:

[Notorious BOB]

Err guys, the skill used by the vermin to get u knocked down is a SPELL so doesn't it ignore mistform and just interrupt you? If so, gg sorry m8

Yes, the Vermin have got a knockdown...but a knockdown for zero damage... that's no problem. Remember with trapping, there's nothing to interrupt while you pull, the traps are already down. Neither is their poison when that's all you're dealing with. Troll's can easily overcome a few pips of poison degen if it needs to.

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[Notorious BOB]

BOB, I love all your videos! :laughing: Another poster said it best--you're one of the great solo trappers ;) And of course, your choice of music is impeccable and hilarious. Loooove it. Wish I were a better trapper, but I've had some good times with it thanks to you :grin:

I'm glad you enjoyed it... like I said, this one was more for a bit of fun, but the technique is perfectly viable against aggro mobs. :cool:

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[MrCoolGuy]

where can i get serpant's quickness? i dont think they have it in factions?

[Gavotte Grimmer]

So this would work on Minotaurs at Elona's Reach also right? Do vermins drop better than minotaurs?

[Notorious BOB]

where can i get serpant's quickness? i dont think they have it in factions?

Serpent's Quickness is a Prophecies Campaign skill so Faction's Character's will need to cross to Lion's Arch and get it from First Watch Sergio there.

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