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Ivorywolf
28-07-2006, 05:50
For those of you who arn't/can't be on right at the moment, here a picture of what you are morphed into with the Melandru Avatar skill.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/Windoftherose/Malandru.jpg

Azgalon
28-07-2006, 05:53
The Dervish-forms look GREAT!

Much better than what i hoped for!

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Balthazar-form
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6908/balthxh3.jpg

Melandru-form
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9175/melandruxc9.jpg

Grenth-form
http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/9497/gw088cb9.png

Lyssa-form
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6171/gw089jc7.png

nameos
28-07-2006, 05:55
anyone have dwayna?

Azgalon
28-07-2006, 05:57
Seems like most purchase the more offensive/aggressive gods first with their points! :D

Dwayna is OH so pretty!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/lasareth/dwayna.jpg

Azure Eyes
28-07-2006, 05:59
I predict a lot of newbie dervish deaths at whatever mission is after the god form cap.

Azgalon
28-07-2006, 06:01
I predict a lot of newbie dervish deaths at whatever mission is after the god form cap.

I predict alot of players creating Dervishes merely for these "shapeshifting" skills! :laugh:

Silverwyng
28-07-2006, 06:02
people are gonna be dervish necros just coz of the avatar of grenth form. lol

Ivorywolf
28-07-2006, 06:05
Too bad we'll have to wait for release to see the male forms..

Azgalon
28-07-2006, 06:08
Too bad we'll have to wait for release to see the male forms..

Hmm? Will be same god-form regardless of your gender.

Dwayna as you can see is a female goddess.

If you are female and turn into Balthazar, you will become that big bulky fellow.

If you are male and turn into Dwayna, you will become that blue lass.

andrewf
28-07-2006, 06:09
Seems like most purchase the more offensive/aggressive gods first with their points! :D

Dwayna is OH so pretty!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/lasareth/dwayna.jpg


Its like Valkyrie Profile all over again!

Erasculio
28-07-2006, 06:14
Since this is the screenshot topic, here are the Dervish armors (http://www.gwonline.net/wiki/index.php/Dervish_Armor) we have been shown so far.

Erasculio

I Orca I
28-07-2006, 06:23
If i needed anything else to make me want nightfall this would be it :D

Azgalon
28-07-2006, 06:27
If i needed anything else to make me want nightfall this would be it :D

Yes, i am very impressed myself.

Much better than i thought actually.

Azure Eyes
28-07-2006, 06:39
Im just worried the god forms will not be useful at all. So theres no reason to use them except that they look so cool.

Azgalon
28-07-2006, 06:41
Im just worried the god forms will not be useful at all. So theres no reason to use them except that they look so cool.

I find them pretty useful, you can tank in a pinch with the Balth-form for example.

Jack-of-all-Trades. A form for every situation/occasion!

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Avatar of Balthazar (E): Elite Form. For 1…48 second, you gain +40 armor, you move 33% faster, and your attacks deal holy damage. This skill is disabled for 120 seconds. (5 / 2 / 5)

Avatar of Dwayna (E): Elite Form. For 1…48 second, whenever you use a skill, you gain 5 Health and lose one hex. This skill is disabled for 120 seconds. (10 / 2 / 5)

Avatar of Grenth (E): Elite Form. For 1…48 second, whenever you use an attack skill, you also remove one Enchantment from your target, and your attacks deal cold damage. This skill is disabled for 120 seconds. (10 / 2 / 5)

Avatar of Lyssa (E): Elite Form. For 1…48 seconds, you have +10 maximum Energy and your attacks deal +?…41 damage to foes activating skills. * (15 / 2 / 5)

Avatar of Melandru (E): Elite Form. For 1…48 seconds, you have +200 Health, you are unaffected by Conditions, and your attacks deal earth damage. * (15 / 2 / 5)
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Sadow
28-07-2006, 06:42
Im just worried the god forms will not be useful at all. So theres no reason to use them except that they look so cool.

Some of them seem to have the potential for excellent use (Avatar of Lyssa, especially), but it seems like enchantment strip will be an absolute bane to the Dervish. (Nature's Renewal, especially.)

SamIam
28-07-2006, 06:45
I wonder if the Avatar of Balthazar would be good for running. 44 seconds of 33% movement increase is fairly substancial. By the way, each form has the emotes of the class/gender that they represent. For example, the Avatar of Melandru does the hoochie dance :laugh:

Azgalon
28-07-2006, 06:45
Fight alot of people who use conditions?

Don't like poison, disease, bleeding etc?

Slam on Melandru's Avatar and yer safe!:) (for 48 seconds that is)

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Oh, and running with +33 % movement for 48 seconds ain't bad! (as Balthy) :cutie:

katya
28-07-2006, 08:10
I'll be honest; I'll probably be the idiot standing still and drooling at the glorious textures while the Dervish cuts me down. They're so pretty ....

Beta Sprite
28-07-2006, 08:15
I haven't been able to see any of the Lyssa transformation pics. Can someone re-host them?

DarkZeal
28-07-2006, 10:19
Wait, so does Balthazar's holy damage ignore armor?

Darakus
28-07-2006, 11:00
not likely but it will double damage versus undeath, I predict a lot of dervish undeath farming :D

Azn Deathfire
28-07-2006, 11:39
can any1 reupload the grenth and lyssa form pretty plssssss . thx in advance.

Enosh
28-07-2006, 11:44
can any1 reupload the grenth and lyssa form pretty plssssss . thx in advance.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8296/lyssauh0.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3891/grenthtc0.jpg

Paul Pluto
28-07-2006, 11:48
God damn ! Anerf really have done a nice job on this, I was already making a Dirvish due the Scythe Knight idea of which I love but these really are just ftw :cool:

Kailden Jera
28-07-2006, 11:50
If we look closelly each form looks like one of the core profections. If you add them matching weapon by far you couldn't take apart who's the fake and who's the real deal.

Balthazar: Warrior
Dwayna: Elementalist (an Aeromancer... doesn't look like a Monk (even if it benifits skill usage with healing it would match more eficently the Aura of Restoration skill))
Grenth: Necro
Lyssa: Mesmer (duh)
Melandru: Ranger

I'm gonna equip the Meladru's Avatar a bow and check if i'm right.

Ostriig
28-07-2006, 12:00
Whoa! I'm liking that stuff!

Servant of Kali
28-07-2006, 12:19
Well seems like Dervish=Druid, sort of. Paragon=Bard.

CMEPTb
28-07-2006, 12:23
I haven't seen him in-game yet. But once Grenth comes strolling up to me, Ill probably kneel.

Khift
28-07-2006, 12:40
I haven't seen him in-game yet. But once Grenth comes strolling up to me, Ill probably kneel.Not only does he look the best he is also easily the best form mechanically as well. He will gladly kill monks and eat babies.

shadow the hero
28-07-2006, 12:41
Anerf really have done a nice job on this It's Anet >.>, But yes some of those Avatars are Great!

Lone Wolf
28-07-2006, 12:53
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3891/grenthtc0.jpg

I would create a Dervish just for that sick transformation.

teh Monkeys
28-07-2006, 13:55
Oh god no. There's going to be a dervish flood on release that's gonna make wammo syndrome look like nothing.

Damn you anet.

MadFliPPP
28-07-2006, 14:02
The ANerf, was an intentional shot at the company.
And we are gonna see another flood of one job class, like the wammo and the assasin, but will whole dervish parties work well?

Ringsgold
28-07-2006, 14:05
I think they will in PvE with a support order necro (N/D ofcourse)

:wave: first post :wave:

LightOfVega
28-07-2006, 14:13
How does the transformation happen? Any special effects? Screenshots please :)

grr, 5 more hours at work... :/

Ostriig
28-07-2006, 15:22
How does the transformation happen? Any special effects? Screenshots please :)

grr, 5 more hours at work... :/

Nothing extraordinary. Just some circles of blue light surrounding the character vertically, as it leans forward and puts its hands over its head. I didn't think of taking a screenie of that bit, but you'll see for yourself, it's nothing to bowl you over.

Aldodilly
28-07-2006, 15:57
Not only does he look the best he is also easily the best form mechanically as well. He will gladly kill monks and eat babies.

Kneel for the almight! The best of the best! KNEEL FOR THE DERVISH! DERVISH FOR THE WIN

shadow the hero
28-07-2006, 16:01
The Dervish can maybe be a Step to the Shapeshifter Class

Azgalon
28-07-2006, 16:50
Dervs should make those players who like Shapeshifters happy.

Paragons should make those who like Bards happy! :)

Zxanadu
28-07-2006, 17:21
Just a quick question.

Are the Avataar forms affected by whether the character is a male or female?

If so, we would have 2 different looks for each avataar. That would rock.

soulstryke
28-07-2006, 17:25
OMG OMG OMG I'm definitely going to unlock Grenth just to get a few screenshots of my own... these are just great.

DarkSpirit
28-07-2006, 17:37
Avartar of Lyssa seems to be the weakest. The +10 max energy is nice but extra damage only when they are attacking?

Therese Fireside
28-07-2006, 17:50
Avartar of Lyssa seems to be the weakest. The +10 max energy is nice but extra damage only when they are attacking?

It sounds odd, but mezmers are usually targeting attacking foes to shut them down, so it makes sense sort of, but instead of the plus energy boost, I'd rather see +2 energy per struck foe per attack.

Also as been said before, the Grenth avatar sounds like a total monk smiter while balthazar sounds like a MM worst nightmare.

Awsome.

Has anyone fooled around with makeing a P/D?

Azure Eyes
28-07-2006, 18:02
I can see why anet didnt like the idea of arcane mimicry copying the forms. With it you could be in form for a very long time. Still it annoys me that they think the dervs need special treatment.

Azn Deathfire
28-07-2006, 18:33
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/dynasty161/avatar3.jpg

SAY CHEESE! i'm the one aaaaaall the way to the right as the avatar of dwayna (goddess of forsaken)

meteo
28-07-2006, 18:45
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/dynasty161/avatar3.jpg

SAY CHEESE! i'm the one aaaaaall the way to the right as the avatar of dwayna (goddess of forsaken)

Very Nice :smiley:

Paul Pluto
28-07-2006, 18:50
Anerf was deliberate :laugh:

Are these classed as enchants and can thus be stripped? I'm pretty solely PvE so they're all fantastic for me!

I'm going to make one but I'm going to try to play Nightfall flat out to try to actually be in groups instead of being looked down on like a wammo :sad:

Seriously in love with the Dervish :grin:

GormWolfblade
28-07-2006, 18:50
Just a quick question.

Are the Avataar forms affected by whether the character is a male or female?

If so, we would have 2 different looks for each avataar. That would rock.
I hope so, but I don't think so, looking at the screens, grenth and balth are male avatars, but only female Dervs are unlocked for the event.

Also, I don't think they're echants (haven't tested trying to remove them) but the skill description classifies them as "Elite Form."

Azn Deathfire
28-07-2006, 18:57
nope..they arent enchants...says that the skill is an elite form...i dont think it can be stripped

Bobross
28-07-2006, 19:00
Avartar of Lyssa seems to be the weakest. The +10 max energy is nice but extra damage only when they are attacking?


Umm its + 40-50ish damage when they activate a skill...hmm how often do people activate skills? Combine this with aoe attacks...not bad.

Maybe a lyssa sin, with high dagger mastery, and whirling charge....just gotta stand there and get beat on, or try to activate skills to defend yourself...but then the beating gets worse.

Or a lyssa interrupt ranger....hmm when do interrupt rangers usually land attacks? Would interrupt rangers enjoy doing 50 extra damage per interrupt? Imagine the kind of savage shot you could get off with this...


I haven't tested this, either, but what effect does Quickening Zephyr have on forms? I'm thinking you could have them up 3/4 of the time with that up.

Avoc
28-07-2006, 20:05
I did 202 damage to a paragon in the area who I didnt even target while I was in Lyssa form. =/

Furinto
28-07-2006, 20:26
nope..they arent enchants...says that the skill is an elite form...i dont think it can be stripped
I'm sure Nightfall will bring in new skills for Monks and/or Mesmers that mention forms. ;)


Anyway, i'm positively stoked about the Dervish. The scythe attacking is so sweet, and the transformations are icing on the cake. Can't wait for the PvE event and eventual release of the campaign.

Siddious Nightblade
28-07-2006, 20:43
I'm sure Nightfall will bring in new skills for Monks and/or Mesmers that mention forms. ;)

I wouldn't be too sure about that. Ritualists have weapon skills that do not count as enchantments and mesmers do not have any counters towards them.

richo
28-07-2006, 21:37
Oh god no. There's going to be a dervish flood on release that's gonna make wammo syndrome look like nothing.

Damn you anet.

i hope they made good hench for nightfall cause i will probably be playing with hench all the way rather then seeing 90% dervish running around in presearing part (although i was already planning on making a dervish this has set my mind i will make a D/N based character) gotta lub creating own builds and dervish also work good @ every spot in tyria with their ability to change to any elemental dmg weapon:)

wosjdoendieuh
28-07-2006, 21:48
i was playing a bit of pvp with my dervish and was the target of many strip enchanments while i was in melandrus form which did absolutely nothing. not to mention how nerfed they will be by the time nightfall comes out. i mean i pwned a dervish and warrior at the same time it was a little much

Vilaptca
28-07-2006, 23:20
Hmm? Will be same god-form regardless of your gender.

Dwayna as you can see is a female goddess.

If you are female and turn into Balthazar, you will become that big bulky fellow.

If you are male and turn into Dwayna, you will become that blue lass.

I think this is what we are getting. Grenth and Balthazar both being male gods, have the male avatars, while the other three all female. It makes sense, though would be cool if you could stay your gender while when changing forms.

Jack Snakeskin
29-07-2006, 00:19
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/dynasty161/avatar3.jpg

SAY CHEESE! i'm the one aaaaaall the way to the right as the avatar of dwayna (goddess of forsaken)

:starry:

Anet you are doing one heck of a job.
They had me with scythe wielding and now this......

Now let's hope the campaign has a decent story and then we can al sleep nice and tight in out little beds

shadow the hero
29-07-2006, 00:25
you know try to Type /dance while you are Transformed :P

Lightow
29-07-2006, 01:12
Last night I tried dancing and it wouldn't let me in regular form, haven't tried it in avatar form. =\

Lady Eleni
29-07-2006, 01:45
No dances for the new classes yet... but at release, I can't wait!

Just a quick query on the Lyssa form... Does it have two faces, or four?
The angle only shows two, but the placement seems to indicate four total faces, which would be rather odd, considering that she's a Twin goddess, not a Quadruplets goddess.

Crazy Moo
29-07-2006, 06:06
The Lyssa Form has four faces. Perhaps its just wearing a mask on all four sides? What i wanna know is why the form is wearing skimpy underwear, lol.

Azgalon
29-07-2006, 06:18
The Lyssa Form has four faces. Perhaps its just wearing a mask on all four sides? What i wanna know is why the form is wearing skimpy underwear, lol.
Maybe that's Lyssas preference in clothing? :)

She is a goddess you know, she can wear whatever she wants! :girly:

I think this is what we are getting. Grenth and Balthazar both being male gods, have the male avatars, while the other three all female. It makes sense, though would be cool if you could stay your gender while when changing forms.
I would not want to see Grenth in a "female" form with mammaries and curves! :cutie:

CMEPTb
30-07-2006, 04:00
Last night I tried dancing and it wouldn't let me in regular form, haven't tried it in avatar form. =\

The avatars each aquire the same dance as the professions deriving from them. Grenth looks WICKED doing the male necro mosh :grin: .

Zion Farbow
30-07-2006, 04:05
nice avatars @_@

Arctus Redryn
30-07-2006, 04:28
Awesome. :smiley:

And about teams with only Dervishes, if they are not changed, such a team would be about the only ones left.

MetaldragonFrogkiller
30-07-2006, 04:31
wat do the grenth and lyssa forms look like?

kidlantern
31-07-2006, 01:45
These are front, side and back shots of the avatars, I dont lave the last 3 so could someone do them? its easy on ms paint


regular
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...wolfsong-1.jpg

Melandru
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...melandru-1.jpg

dwayna
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...n/dwayna-1.jpg

Nanashi
31-07-2006, 11:01
Do you guys suppose we'll get these forms from the TOA sections? I mean sure Melandru will be the hardest to get, FoW, but dang like that would make so much sense wouldn't it? To be honest though, I'd go with the Avatar Of Balthazar. Grenth is cool and all but his true specter form is better not to mention Balth looks like a fricken war machine hired by the devil himself heh. That avatar makes Ares look like a pathetic child.

soulstryke
31-07-2006, 15:42
All Dervish teams will not be the norm. RA may have some issues; but I tried a few all D's in HA and they either get nailed really quick when they charge in; or there's a hard fight but the more organized and communicative team still wins. There's the whole "talk to each other" aspect that still needs to be there for D-spike and similar coordinated attacks to work.

I did not try a Paragon; but I did not see them particularly effective except for a couple of P/Rits.

Awesome. :smiley:

And about teams with only Dervishes, if they are not changed, such a team would be about the only ones left.

soulstryke
31-07-2006, 15:59
i mean i pwned a dervish and warrior at the same time it was a little much

The AoE attacks, managed carefully, were outrageous - the Dervishes were the whirling killing machines they promised they would be; and I have never played a melee character beyond one or two levels because I hated them. These; I enjoyed. We'd fight all Dervish teams and still get flawless victories because we watched each others' backs and called targets, etc. - mostly just being courteous players.

Which makes me wonder just how much nerfing is going to be done - I still lost vs. warriors often enough; but I cut down anything else outside of a few good monks... but I'd keep most of those distracted while the rest of their team was destroyed by mine, then we'd gang up on them... I was on a mixed team that started in RA and had 17 wins in a row before falling in less than a minute to a much better balanced TA team.

Now half monk, half dervish teams I could probably see happening; the mix of secondary professions would still lend some variety.

I like to hear about how they've promised such a better PvE game with NightFall; but I think there's going to be some straight tasty PvP games if a fraction of the new powers for these two classes make it in.

Ohanzee
31-07-2006, 17:32
For those of you who arn't/can't be on right at the moment, here a picture of what you are morphed into with the Melandru Avatar skill.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/Windoftherose/Malandru.jpg

Wow the malandru form + scythe = straight up DAOC valewalker rip off

Spoil of War
31-07-2006, 20:41
What i wanna know is why the form is wearing skimpy underwear, lol.
It's no coincidence a lot of female Mesmers wear hotpants and fishnets ;p

GREEK
01-08-2006, 09:17
i was thinking about making a dervish but then thought: might as well test out my other chars vs. some dervish teams to see if its even worth it.... lo and behold, my necro, ranger, warrior, and ele all wiped the dervish.... only problem i encountered was with a melandrus avatar vs my ranger and with enchant recyclers who used pious haste to stay on top of my ele.... aside from that, a good degen build (necro), a good damage dealing/tanking build (wamo, every1's favorite :azn: ), or a nuker build providing u can keep your distance will prove more than enough to take care of dervishes

having said that, awesome looking avatars, altho for some reason Lyssa's reminded me of the huge lady from deuce bigalow: european gigalow the first time i saw her lol

Nanashi
15-08-2006, 06:12
I'm so going to change my secondary on my assassin. Something about Balthazar + Shiro Blades is just sooo right. xD

neoflame
15-08-2006, 06:16
I'm so going to change my secondary on my assassin. Something about Balthazar + Shiro Blades is just sooo right. xD
Enjoy your 1 second Avatar of Balthazar. -.-

Nanashi
15-08-2006, 06:19
Enjoy your 1 second Avatar of Balthazar. -.-

xD it's not gunna be that short. Atleast 15 seconds I would hope. >_<

Ju Smurph
15-08-2006, 07:53
I did not play in the week end... but this is seriously sweet!

antoninus
20-08-2006, 19:25
why wasn't i surprised the "warrior form" of the Dervish turned Balthazar ended up having his tummy sticking out again? XD

Grenth's form hmm i'm loving that hood!

MaximumSquid
20-08-2006, 21:16
Kinda late, but I did screenshot the Dervish I used during the weekend.

http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/2964/melandruavatarnj6.jpg

I think they look cooler without the Scythe

Renegade Returns
20-08-2006, 22:43
xD it's not gunna be that short. Atleast 15 seconds I would hope. >_<



Dont wanna disapoint you but it is gonna last for only 1 second :(.
Although I bet there are gonna be alot of Crit Eye Sins cause of the Scythes EoE effects.

Fenix Aurion
25-08-2006, 02:22
****. omfg, i didnt no that dervish can transform into those gods. Ah, I wish I was able to try out dervish and peragon on the premeire event!!!!!!!!!!!!!

critical vengeance
25-08-2006, 02:27
:P yeah it's cool, still cool things bring problems... assassin anyone?

windcaller
29-08-2006, 18:21
uhm.... question: in the skill description it says 'Elite Form' do we get regular forms also?

:O that would cheer me up to death!

critical vengeance
29-08-2006, 21:59
well have not seen any so far, we might get it but i kind of doubt it since it was made in the forms of the gods, and only a sucky god wouldn't be an elite :P

windcaller
30-08-2006, 09:58
maybe morph into something else but a god. morph into mursaat O_O or Seer

ok now leaving the day dreaming aside. IF you have Elite Form then logically speaking you gotta have a normal form also. or else why call it Elite in the first place?

tuacker
30-08-2006, 18:24
Even though I like the idea, but IIRC every elite skill is called "elite <type>", eg. elite stance and so on...

windcaller
30-08-2006, 19:38
come on we could get other forms...

Ghost Form:

For 1-64 seconds while under this form you cannot lose more than 10% of your current health

or Forgotten Form (faster spell cast) or.....

pfff dunno

and the idea of 120 recharge is quite discouraging also. hope ANet will reduce that to....let's say...90?

just want more forms :p

LoneWolfX
02-09-2006, 12:54
Absolutely love the forms of the gods, my only criticism is the 1 sec bottom end of the duration range.

Using a skill with 0 attribute points should make the skill rubbish, not non-existant (asiding Melandru's condition-clearance).

I, for one, would love (if only purely for roleplay/fun) for the bottom end to be upped to 5 secs. It still wouldn't be worth seriously using your elite slot & enduring a 120 sec skill disablement for any of the forms, but it would give enough time to get some great screenshots with a non-dervish primary.

tommynj
21-10-2006, 04:54
Great avatars but for those folks who want to get to use the full effectiveness of the forms you must be dervish primary not X/D. If you really love the avatar forms then you must learn to play Dervish :) Change is always a good thing .....

JasonLa
31-10-2006, 05:46
I've added a page to the wiki for the images. But not strictly for the images. Please feel free to include any information pertaining to the forms anyone feels appropriate such as strategy of using them or whatever other stuff.

http://www.gwonline.net/wiki/index.php/Avatar_Forms

katya
31-10-2006, 07:02
I've added a page to the wiki for the images. But not strictly for the images. Please feel free to include any information pertaining to the forms anyone feels appropriate such as strategy of using them or whatever other stuff.

Thanks Jason, you Wiki guys rock! Now go, my fellow Dervish! Get some awesome screenshots and put them up. Populate the wiki and be prosperous!

akbaroth
31-10-2006, 23:19
so, are these forms the same gender always? or are they the same ender as you are? if they do change your gende, i think it means that your the type of avatar where your look like the person, cus there is the kind of avatar where your just a messanger, though the ladder is not as common.

Kojak
01-11-2006, 02:54
They are the same for every gender. I too was hoping they would have gender specific 'skins'. However sadly do not :(

akbaroth
01-11-2006, 21:22
dang tnx anyway