View Full Version : Nightfall "Offscreen" Preview Screenshots (creatures)
Uh, hi. Took some screen shots from the Nightfall Preview vid that's making the rounds in the both Community and Movie forums. Y'all have pretty interesting takes/views on the mythology of GW and so I thought I'd see what they might be in regard to the following:
Creature:
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/7755/nightfall1xn6.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nightfall1xn6.jpg)
Same but slightly different view:
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/2669/nightfall2px4.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nightfall2px4.jpg)
Forgive the quality of it as the video from which they are taken was filmed off of a monitor from somewhere else on the planet. :grin:
Putting all these into the same thread to hopefully prevent stepping on someone's toes here.
It's big looking, rather ugly, and though you can't see it from this angle - it has a good set of teeth. :laugh:
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3118/nightfall3wi3.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nightfall3wi3.jpg)
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/2526/nightfall4xb6.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nightfall4xb6.jpg)
1st creature: ooooh, pretty. 2nd creature: yuck
This particular creature seems interesting, if not similar to the first post - difference is in the wings it seems.
Just a little hostile:
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3170/nightfall7dp1.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nightfall7dp1.jpg)
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/6913/nightfall8hh2.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nightfall8hh2.jpg)
Slow in dying after dervish deals deadly blow...that's a lot of "D" words. :rolleyes:
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1812/nightfall9hf2.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nightfall9hf2.jpg)
Quintus Antonius
31-07-2006, 07:50
Good job on the screenshots. I can't wait to find out more about these creatures.
What I find even more interesting is the background behind the battle. Looks like a certain desert from Prophecies, doesn't it?
Quintus, my thanks to you for the help and suggestion. :smiley:
The 1st creature in your 3rd post looks strangely familiar.....
[EDIT] I do belive you can see it in a screenshot somewhere else. When you make a RP character you can click on a box saying Nightfall wich brings up screenshots and tells u to go the the web site. I think its the middle shot
shadow the hero
31-07-2006, 13:23
Ok the First Pic, could be a Harpy
Blazing Liger
31-07-2006, 15:48
Could be a harpy, but for some reason when I saw it, the first thing that came to my mind was a djinn. Considering the setting of Nightfall, I would not be at all surprised to find some djinn-like enemies.
Quintus Antonius
31-07-2006, 16:28
There are Flame Djinns (kind of redudant) in Sorrow's Furnance, and they look nothing like that.
Blazing Liger
31-07-2006, 16:30
Well, then I'm not sure exactly what that thing is. Maybe some sort of demon? I don't really think it's a harpy because it appears to have forelimbs (though it's hard to tell from those pictures).
Arkhan The Black
31-07-2006, 21:53
Might be a harpy (Minotaur's in GW doesn't look like the mythology described them either so the design issue doesn't mater) or some sort of avian people. Could it maybe be some sort of minion of Dhuum that is suppose to be a mockery of Dwayna's avatar?
There are Flame Djinns (kind of redudant) in Sorrow's Furnance, and they look nothing like that.
Notice: "Flame" Djinns
It doesn't imply there aren't other kinds of Djinns.
In fact the opposite argument "That there are more than one kind of Djinns" is relatively stronger. If there's only one kind of Djinn, they would just be called Djinn, there's no need for an extra adjective in front.
Flame Djinns also have wings and legs, they're burning, so you can't tell if there are other unique traits either.
Screenshot 3 and 4 looks like sand drakes.
Quintus Antonius
01-08-2006, 01:28
You may want to read up on your Islamic mythos, Djinns are born of fire. Which is why I said it was redundant, and don't think that there are multiple varieties of Djinn.
Lord Serpent
01-08-2006, 01:41
I hope there are chimeara's (sorry for the bad spelling) you know those freakishly awesome mythical characters?
You know, I always imagined djinns being, you know, sort of bluish-greenish color. (maybe it has something to do with Aladdin)
OOOoo, maybe there would be a lamp, that when you click on it, a Djinn would come out and fite you, that would be sort of cool.
Gmr Leon
02-08-2006, 01:10
Just something to point out,those winged creatures have the same death animation as the Stone Rains in Arborstone(explorable).
I'm not sure, but I think the Stone Rains also die like the Lich. They cast with the same animation for sure.
Quintus Antonius
02-08-2006, 07:24
How a creature casts and the animation when it dies is completely irrelevent to the lore.
Euh Quintus, I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong but weren't those flame creatures in sorrow's furnace called flame elementals and not Djinns?
Where Djinns are concerned, I do agree on the fact Nightfall would be a proper setting for them and I do disagree on them being only fire related in middle-east mythology
GuildWiki has this to say on Djinns :
in Islam, a jinni (also "djinni" or "djini") is a member of the jinn (or "djinn"), a race of creatures. The word "jinn" literally means anything which has the connotation of concealment, invisibility, seclusion and remoteness.
A bit further we can read that while the Arabs believed the Jinns to be spirits of fire, the Semite believed they were spirits of ancient people who acted during the night and vanished at the first light of day.
So as you can see depending on the mythology we can find different type of Djinns and they can be:
- spirits of ancient people disappearing at the first light of day and able to turn themselves invisible or change shape at will (Semite mythology : 3 types Ghul (night type), Sila (fixed shape) and Ifrit, responsible for some diseases and insanity)
- spirits of fire (Arab mythology) often associated with Succubi.
- Creatures of free will made of smokeless fire (Muslim interpretation and the one that can be found in the 1001 nights books when the tales bring them in)
In the tales of the 1001 night, the Djinns although of fire can live in water are often tied to items when very powerfull (generaly done by Suleyman in the form of a seal on the recipient) and command vast armies of other Djinns. They have the ability to change form and like to meddle in human affairs :grin:
Concerning the creature in the screen capture it could be a Djinn but I have my doubts on that, it however has a likeness to one of the gods avatars and as such it wouldn't surprise me if they were in some form linked to the gods mentionned in the short story about nightfall we got with the pre-release announcment.
Quintus Antonius
02-08-2006, 17:39
Unless they've changed the name since I was last in Sorrow's Furnance (which I admit is possible) the flaming creatures down there were called "Fire Djinns", and I remember them being a huge pain the butt.
Note that in all your examples of Djinn, they are somehow associated with fire. If anything, you proved my point. That said, Islamic belief only says Djinn are born of fire, it doesn't say they necessarily have to remain flaming. Ever seen Wishmaster? That's how I imagine Djinn, and it fits almost everything you just said.
Ranger Nietzsche
03-08-2006, 02:01
in Islam, a jinni (also "djinni" or "djini") is a member of the jinn (or "djinn"), a race of creatures. The word "jinn" literally means anything which has the connotation of concealment, invisibility, seclusion and remoteness.
...the Semite believed they were spirits of ancient people who acted during the night and vanished at the first light of day.
...
- spirits of ancient people disappearing at the first light of day and able to turn themselves invisible or change shape at will (Semite mythology : 3 types Ghul (night type), Sila (fixed shape) and Ifrit, responsible for some diseases and insanity)
note QA, the above has nothing to do with fire
Quintus Antonius
03-08-2006, 03:27
In Islamic tradition, angels were born of light, humans were created by God, and Djinn were created in-between, born of fire, neither human or angel.
Here's an article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djinn) for anyone interested.
Well I'm not arguing with the islamite part as you are obviously correct, it is just that the semite interpretation is slightly different :grin:
That said it is more than likely nightfall will respect the islamite interpretation of Djinns if they are introduced in there.
Concerning Sorrow's furnace I went to guildwiki for quest descriptions and they call the creatures Flame Djinns in both the Final assault and the Fire in the Hole quest descriptions which would make you right. (it would also imply different types of Djinns but then again you never know)
Lord Neff
03-08-2006, 14:35
The creatures in Sorrow's Furnace are called "Flame Djinn". Just to clear things up abit :huh:
Quintus Antonius
03-08-2006, 17:28
I think we may still see creatures called "Djinn" or "Djini", but I don't think they will look like that screenshot, or will be anything like the Flame Djinni of Sorrow's Furnance.
Gmr Leon
03-08-2006, 23:15
Is it at all possible this could be a sort of Djinn creature?
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/GmrLeon00/WaterDjinn.jpg
Is it at all possible this could be a sort of Djinn creature?
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/GmrLeon00/WaterDjinn.jpg
That's an Undine.. Though If Anet wants to I guess they can name her Water Djinn.. it doesn't sound right though..
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1812/nightfall9hf2.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nightfall9hf2.jpg)
Anyone notice that symbol on the winged creatures chest? Have we seen that symbol anywhere in game before?
Quintus Antonius
04-08-2006, 17:25
Nothing comes immediately to mind, but runes and glyphs aren't my speciality. Check the Compendium, in specific Eratimus's rune research. If it exists, it will be there.
devilsmom
12-08-2006, 05:49
hm looks intersting!
the first critters look like the lich.. winged.. robed.. slightly demonic.
Quintus Antonius
12-08-2006, 17:12
the first critters look like the lich.. winged.. robed.. slightly demonic.
The problem is, that's pretty much a general description of every stereotypical demon-creature.
Ranger Nietzsche
15-08-2006, 20:10
here we go:
the sexy version of that video from the GW site itself:
http://www.guildwars.com/gallery/video/
that thing actually gave me goosebumps
the music is really nice , much better than factions music IMO.
Quintus Antonius
15-08-2006, 20:29
Awesome, thanks for posting that.
Ravensong
28-08-2006, 19:39
yeh factions music sux! prophecies music is great tough...
Old thread, I know..
BUT, for those who think in GW there're only Flame Djinns, I have a new message for you :D
create a new pvp ele now and you'll see the new nightfall skills. Amoung them, Flame Djinn's Haste and Storm Djinn's Haste.
Not trying to proof anything, but definitely worth a note ^^y
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