View Full Version : Unwaking 2-boss farm (Kunvie and Rajazan).
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Equipment:
Druid's Armor
Drago's Flatbow or equivalent (must)
Skills:
Apply Poison
Kindle Arrows
Whirling Defense
Lightning Reflexes
Oath Shot
Troll Unguent
Dodge
Zojun's Haste
Attributes:
Marksmanship - 11
Wilderness Survival - 12
Expertise - 14
Pictures:
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~pvp/files/unwaking3.jpg
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~pvp/files/unwaking1.jpg
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~pvp/files/unwaking2.jpg
Strategy:
Make a run until past all Shiro'ken, as in the standard Rajzan toucher farm.
Then pull groups of baddies and kill them.
Collect rewards.
General combat strategy:
Keep Troll Unguent up as needed (bigger mobs - more often).
Use 2 defensite stances up at all time, recharge them with Oath Shot.
Stay outside of the spell range of caster mobs and use flatbow advantage.
Use Appy Poison for all mobs except Rajazan himself and a Deathhand, on whom you want to use Kindle Arrows.
Killing mobs of Creeping Carps and Rajazan's mob is possible but not recommended. The rest of the immediate area is *easily* clearable with the exception of Onis.
Grats on killing both Rajazan and Kunvie..but how long did you spend with that build?
Probably twice as long as Rajazan himself, since I
m only killing one mob of Krakens, the Kunvie mob, and only Rajazan (so far I've been able to pull him 100%).
Haven't seen the staff drop though.
EDIT:
AND THERE IT IS -
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7374/unwaking4df9.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6271/unwaking5tv7.jpg
:cool:
Grats! ..change your gloves, it doesn't look good like that.
LagunaCid
26-08-2006, 05:49
So its the standard Oath Shot Marksman ;]
Never tried there. Gonna try later, good one.
Grats! ..change your gloves, it doesn't look good like that.
The gloves are there because my main mask is 3+1 marks. But when I want a different sup rune, such as expertise, I put on a different expertise 3+1 mask, and change the gloves from minor expertise (main gloves) to minor marks.
It doesn't look so bad. Looks like I just burned whatever I was baking. :smiley:
LagunaCid
26-08-2006, 07:36
Arg. I always seem to be like, owned by those degen freaks on the way to be boss =[
Arg. I always seem to be like, owned by those degen freaks on the way to be boss =[
Once you have the know-how, the run is *very simple*.
I can make a video, if you want.
3 hour report:
15k worth of drops
3 Rajazan's
1 Kunvie
Roughly equal to Rajazan's toucher farm in the rate of making money - about 40k an hour.
Unless I've just been getting really back luck with the Kunvie drop (it's roughly twice the value of the sword).
P.S. It seems like having extra greens of the same kind doesn't really affect the probability of getting more.
Thank you so much for this guide Oles. I got a Kunvie's Staff for my Ele on my first try :D
Now I just have to get that Cultist green for my War :wink:
Don't you people dare sell these for under 20 and 40k, respectively! These go like hotcakes in Droks, but the prices need to stay high.
:)
A video would be great. I'm getting owned even with 7 henchmen around this area but I hopefully can pick up your route/strategy (yes I am a bit new at all this)
Video of the run is up at:
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~pvp/files/unwakingrun.avi
Right click and save target as.
Naf Olbaid
26-08-2006, 14:36
The kraken kick my arse.. illusion of pain + clumsiness.. omg
hence the flatbow. stay out of spell range
Naf Olbaid
27-08-2006, 07:29
hence the flatbow. stay out of spell range
yeah yeah figured out they were on higher ground from me, so that reduces my attack range (??)
took me about 10-15 minutes to kill razajan with kindle arrows x.x, his boss regen + unholy feast + some kind of evade makes him tough to crack. Kunvie was alot easier.
edit: having a necro myself, I know they don't have any evasion skills or stances, and I looked him up on Gwiki, and he has no evasion skills listed. But he was evading about 5 of my arrows in a row every so often (???) really strange. Ok mystery solved there was a ritualist hiding behind a corner using the displacement spirit every so often that I didn't see.
This run and farm is so easy a small child could do it (inface I hired one to do it while im at work) Anyways... its a really good farming location (at least for a lucky SOB like me.)
Ive spent about 2 hours farming and have completed about 8 runs in that time (some time was spent tweaking the build, took me about 20 minutes to find the build i wanted, probably about 10 minutes selling stuff) And in that 8 runs, no drops from rajazan, however ive gotten 2 kunvie staffs :). Sold for a total of 90k in 1.5 hours isnt a bad farming rate (my friend is all cocky because he can make 10k an hour farming trolls, and he always bashes my ways of farming because he never thinks they are any good.) Well looks like the one with the huge pile of gold will be the last one laughing.
PS. In the time of righting this message, i have seen 10 freaking pop ups!! wtf is wrong with this site, makes typing out the message 20 minutes longer..
Just one note... stances don't stack. You can't have 2 stances active at the same time.
This run and farm is so easy a small child could do it (inface I hired one to do it while im at work) Anyways... its a really good farming location (at least for a lucky SOB like me.)
Ive spent about 2 hours farming and have completed about 8 runs in that time (some time was spent tweaking the build, took me about 20 minutes to find the build i wanted, probably about 10 minutes selling stuff) And in that 8 runs, no drops from rajazan, however ive gotten 2 kunvie staffs :). Sold for a total of 90k in 1.5 hours isnt a bad farming rate (my friend is all cocky because he can make 10k an hour farming trolls, and he always bashes my ways of farming because he never thinks they are any good.) Well looks like the one with the huge pile of gold will be the last one laughing.
PS. In the time of righting this message, i have seen 10 freaking pop ups!! wtf is wrong with this site, makes typing out the message 20 minutes longer..
You've optimized the build even further? I thought I did that already. Please share.
mss smwht
31-08-2006, 19:48
Well, I can kill Kunvie just fine, but getting to Rajazan isn't working out too well so far >.>
Nice build tho, works great here.
I'm experiencing a similar problem. While I can complete every part of this run up to securing a spot near Rajazan's mob, I just can't single him out of that mob. I even waited till he was quite far from them, but every time I shot an arow at him the whole mob aggroed. But after a while of fighting I managed to defeat the mob first and then Rajazan :wink:
boxterduke
31-08-2006, 20:39
NVM, I found the link for the Rajazan toucher.
I'm experiencing a similar problem. While I can complete every part of this run up to securing a spot near Rajazan's mob, I just can't single him out of that mob. I even waited till he was quite far from them, but every time I shot an arow at him the whole mob aggroed. But after a while of fighting I managed to defeat the mob first and then Rajazan :wink:
Rajazan might stick with his buddies sometime..but if he's far enough and you aggro him, he should come attack you.. now the pulling part becomes harder if he's wanding.
TheRanger
01-09-2006, 02:06
I'm having trouble killing Kunvie, there's usually some fish that patrol or some Kraken that ccomes into my aggro range because of the height advantage. Where exactly do you stand when you attack them?
Before you even attempt at aggroing Kunvie's mob, be sure to clear the area from those 2 Kraken mobs.
As for the place, I usually pull Kunvie's mob to somewhere near the place where the last Shiro'ken mob was standing before it moved away, and it works for me just fine.
You only need to kill 1 kraken mob, the one that comes from the same path Kunvie is moving on.
In reality, you don't need to kill any other mobs but Rajazan and Kunvie mob, but killing that kraken mob makes sure that you don't get a nerf from killing the same 2 mobs over and over.
You should pull the Kunvie mob and stand on a little hump next to the wall. This puts you out of the agro range of all other mobs in the area. Just make sure not to shoot Creepy Craps when they run by ahead.
Rajazan is 100% pullable away from his mob under any and all circumstances. However, sometimes he spawns a little father than his mob, and you might have to kill the mob first to save time.
Pulling him is easy, shoot him with a flatbow and run back immediately. Sometimes he will follow but not the mob, sometimes they both will. Just rinse and repeat until only he follows.
mss smwht
01-09-2006, 03:42
My problem isn't pulling Rajazan, it is getting to Rajazan and finding a place to stand where I don't aggro the creeping carps that run around...
My problem isn't pulling Rajazan, it is getting to Rajazan and finding a place to stand where I don't aggro the creeping carps that run around...
I just run past his mob to where te entrance to Unwaking Waters [Kurzick] is, there is a lot of space there, so if you don't aggro the crabs along the way everything should be fine.
moenbase
01-09-2006, 13:22
I suppose you let the Ele boss dragon just shoot at you, rather then let him get close and kills you in 4 hits? :]
Seems plausible to do.
This way you can also kill the Ele boss in Gyala's Hatchery. The Leviathan Eye thingy.
How good does this build with Oath Shot, and evades work against Warrior bosses btw?
For lets say, Geoffer the Pain Bringer, or the 2 Warrior bosses in Gayla's?
How good does this build with Oath Shot, and evades work against Warrior bosses btw?
For lets say, Geoffer the Pain Bringer, or the 2 Warrior bosses in Gayla's?
Well I suppose if you fight warriors who DON'T have any way to remove your stances (Wild Blow and such) and that you have an interrupt for their heal sig then I think that you would be able to do so.
moenbase
01-09-2006, 14:03
Oh yea, I forgot that part about the stances. A couple of them carry Wild Blow's with them. :[
Perhaps a silly thought but how about those Mursaat Elementalists? If you can keep them at range so they only 'shoot' at you?
easygamers
02-09-2006, 01:44
ugh yet another build that proves i needa get a dragos flatbow.... byebyebye 40k :(
do u guys use Dragos vamp flatbow or just Dragos Flatbow?
ugh yet another build that proves i needa get a dragos flatbow.... byebyebye 40k :(
do u guys use Dragos vamp flatbow or just Dragos Flatbow?
You absolutely DON'T HAVE TO buy a Dragos. Any flatbow will do, it MUST be a flabow. You could even buy a poisonous string to get the longer poison duration.
i have the build i have been in the unwakening waters, but, where the heck are those bosses!! i cant find em :angry:
:laugh:
d e l e t e d
07-09-2006, 16:21
you can't have two stance up at one time.
i have the build i have been in the unwakening waters, but, where the heck are those bosses!! i cant find em :angry:
:laugh:
http://www.gwonline.net/wiki/index.php/Image:Jade_sea_elementalist_eskills.jpg
Look for the "Ride the Lightning" skill on the map.
http://www.gwonline.net/wiki/index.php/Image:Jade_sea_necro_eskills.jpg
Look for "Cultist's Fervor" elite on the map (note: the one near harvest temple, NOT the one in in Rea's Crater).
you can't have two stance up at one time.
yeah but you know... you can use them like one after another? duh?
lol, This build is soo much fun. A bud and mysel changed a few things around, and use it to clear out everything except the shiro-ken, in about a half hour
Check out this amazing run.
I haven't farmed there for a week or two, but today decided that I wanted a rajazan for myself. So I decided I'd go until I get rajazan.
First try-
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~pvp/files/GW/unwaking6.jpg
I have just one question: what you kill them with just POISON??
mss smwht
16-09-2006, 18:18
Pretty much, yeah.
I have just one question: what you kill them with just POISON??
Well, um....Yeah :grin:
UPDATE:
There's another boss right at the beginning of Unwaking Water - Merki.
He drops a green shield that I just sold for 30k (but probably close to 25k on average).
To farm the shield, use the standard Rajazan toucher build. Make sure to get the priest blessing immediately before the boss area. Then pull 1 mob of Outcast - sin, war, deathhand, rit - and kill them, starting with deathhand. Then pull Mukri and kill him.
After that, continue running to Rajazan and kill him.
There you go, another 2-boss farm variation - a bit faster than Kunvie+Rajazan, at a slightly smaller selling price.
UPDATE:
There's another boss right at the beginning of Unwaking Water - Merki.
He drops a green shield that I just sold for 30k (but probably close to 25k on average).
how do you do that, i farmed it a few times and got the shield once. nobody would have it for even 15k :shocked: dunno what kind of spells you put on your buyers but i havnt got very much luck at all with selling that shield...
Well grats THAT you sold it for lots of money !! :smiley:
how do you do that, i farmed it a few times and got the shield once. nobody would have it for even 15k :shocked: dunno what kind of spells you put on your buyers but i havnt got very much luck at all with selling that shield...
Well grats THAT you sold it for lots of money !! :smiley:
I get those a lot too. However, after pricechecking this shield I arrived at the 25k figure. And Canthan greens are quite popular at Droks. Usually doesn't take more than 15 min to sell one at regular playing hours.
Istabraq
16-10-2006, 00:49
Any flatbow will do, it MUST be a flabow.
Why is that? A longbow has the same range and is harder to evade.
battlestar
17-10-2006, 12:28
Oles, could you possibly upload your video again (or even the pictures of where to stand)? I'm having massive trouble with the mesmers as well. Do i just apply poison then hit, run, hit, run with dodge/ZH up?
Cheers
Oles, could you possibly upload your video again (or even the pictures of where to stand)? I'm having massive trouble with the mesmers as well. Do i just apply poison then hit, run, hit, run with dodge/ZH up?
Cheers
Mesmers are handled in the exact same fashion as other casters - pull at Flat Bow range, which prevents them from using spells. Then just stand in one spot and poison repeatedly (maybe some kindle for quick finishing or just forgo the poisoning and go for kindle if dealing with 2 Saltsprays).
The key to using Flat bow is to stand at the same elevation or slightly above the level of the casters. If they are above you, your bow will have a shorter range requiring you to come into spell range to fire it. If you are too high above the casters, their attacks have the shorter range, and they will come into spell range.
The video of the run is still here (moved to a new folder):
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~pvp/files/GW/unwakingrun.avi
Dammit I can't get to Rajazan. I noticed there are two ways to get to him.
1. A path straight ahead (from where you stand and kill Kunvie) that goes around Rajzan so you can take him from the back. BUT, the path is blocked by some insane Oni's and I can't seem to get pass them.
2. The path to the right where Kunvie, the carb group and the kraken group patrol. I can take out the Kraks and Kunvie but the Carbs are impossible. This Carb group can be avoided but when I get pass them there's a group of Carbs straight ahead standing close to the wall, AND a group of Carbs to the left at the "hill".
The worse thing is, when you get "near" them (not in aggro circle) they run amok and go after you. I don't have a chance to get EVEN close to firing range of Rajazan so I can lure him.
God it's like im a freaking aggro machine, and I don't even play warrior ! -.-
Volgaris
24-10-2006, 22:46
I actually killed Merki with the kunvie/rajazan build and got the shield on the first drop...now everytime I try and kill him with that build he kills me about everytime even with stances up all the time. Did I just get really lucky to kill Merki with the kunvie/rajazan build or can you possibly farm him with that build?
lady katlin
29-10-2006, 20:06
I am having a hard time getting your video to work.
You will need an xvid codec. But even then, sometimes my videos don't play right in media player.
Try Videolan software, like VLC.
seth bowstalker
01-03-2007, 03:01
Great job, i had no idea that you could Ranger farm both Rajazan and Kunvie in the same run O.o congratz on non touch and non trap
Meh, i did this for the first Canthan green event ages ago... easier to just use Melandrus Arrows and Needling Shot+Dual Shot (or Forked now). Takes Kunvie down in record time, Rajazan is awkward but i guess you could bring Kindle instead, not like my entire skillbar was that required...
Hmm, ive saw your video... but as soon as i get where u said there are kraken spanws and creps running allover the place... no way to keep out of aggro, also the last shiroken group sometimes keep following me.
EDIT: Has this build been nerfed?
Either it's been nerfed or I need to delete my ranger cause I'm so terrible at this. The one time I managed to get anywhere near Kunvie, I had about 30 Shiro'ken right behind me. It ended badly, suffice to say. :(
I did the farm a bunch of times just 2 weeks ago, cause I needed to finish up an ecto stack :)
Still works like before. At least in Normal Mode.
Unless you were in Hard Mode, it still works.
I still prefer Melandru's Arrows though. The damage from Kindle or Apply can't really come close to the damage from that. Just my opinion but it would seem faster to kill Kunvie 1 run, resign, switch to Touch ranger and go back out for Rajazan. I could always just take Distracting Shot for something and just interrupt the fools Plague Touch.
Unless you were in Hard Mode, it still works.
I still prefer Melandru's Arrows though. The damage from Kindle or Apply can't really come close to the damage from that. Just my opinion but it would seem faster to kill Kunvie 1 run, resign, switch to Touch ranger and go back out for Rajazan. I could always just take Distracting Shot for something and just interrupt the fools Plague Touch.
If you are in it for the money, then you should probably stick to my farming technique. In a long run, you'll get more greens and hence money vs. time invested.
If you just want to get Kunvie's Air Staff for a hero, then you should be able to pick one up before the farming code sets in.
However, with the NF AI update, the farming code does not activate before 10-15 runs (as opposed to 3-4, as it used to be). So, it's probably not necessary to kill 2 mobs of Krakens/Saltsprays every single run before going after the bosses. Myabe do it once every 5 runs or so, though I haven't properly tested that particular point.
Ranger Khann
11-06-2007, 06:16
I finally figured where to pull Kunvie :grin: , but I can't seem to pull Rajazan by himself, he always comes w/ his group, any suggestions?
I finally figured where to pull Kunvie :grin: , but I can't seem to pull Rajazan by himself, he always comes w/ his group, any suggestions?
Kill the group :smiley:. Run past them, then kill the Rit first - stances will keep you safe, so don't worry about warrior and assassin attacking you. Then kill the rest, Rajazan at the end.
That's what I was doing, but it was some time ago...
Echomaster
14-09-2007, 06:28
Where is this boss located in Prop or NF?
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