ever wonder wat shiro was like as a boy

[fishy go moo]

think about it wat made him so evil i mean wen he was born was there some prophecy for him LOL

[The Pointless]

fishy, did you take any notice at all of the Factions story? :huh:

[fishy go moo]

yes i beat factions but idk

[Princess eirika]

yes i beat factions but idk

Might want to play through factions again...and pay attention :undecided:

I would tell you but...spoliers and stuff. (Plus I'm lazy :wink: )

[yakslappin]

any time you see shiro with the fourtane teller.. thats a flashback


They should change the screen so its like in grayscale or sepia tone.. first time I went through factions I didnt get it either lol ^^


"He just realeased a plauge on cantha!! how has he proven himself worthy!!!":grin:

[The Pointless]

There was actually screen effect on those scenes, I beleive. Maybe it's a post-process effect and you had them switched off?

But, yeah, it did confuse me at first, until it got to the bit where the (at the time) emperor offered him a job, then I thought "NOW it's making sense!" :cool:

[Lightow]

What's sad is my first time thru, everyone insisted that we all skip the cut scenes. >_<

[Minionman]

There was actually screen effect on those scenes, I beleive. Maybe it's a post-process effect and you had them switched off?

But, yeah, it did confuse me at first, until it got to the bit where the (at the time) emperor offered him a job, then I thought "NOW it's making sense!" :cool:

This happened to me also, the first time I saw the opening Vizunah square cutscene, I thought that Shiro was just walking around somewhere else in the city, and the fortune teller didn't know exactly who he was. The fortune teller would just have gotten a vibe that this red-shirted guy was important somehow, and the "great things" were whatever evil stuff shiro was planning to do.

[aptaleonII]

I didn't realise they were flashbacks right at first, either ^^

I think we get some insight into Shiro's natural character during the RoT quest "a History of violence". It paints a picture of a violent, though not actually EVIL, person. My guess is he was similar as a boy.

[Blazing Liger]

I think he was probably the kind of kid who got kicks from torturing small animals. :rolleyes:

[Troal]

I think he was probably the kind of kid who got kicks from torturing small animals. :rolleyes:

Now we know where he got all those facial scars from. Bunnies are cute but deadly...:laugh:

[GyrussX]

Now we know where he got all those facial scars from. Bunnies are cute but deadly...:laugh:

That's why no one can tame the bunnies in GW, they're really just Asura spies... oops O/T :P

[fishy go moo]

i guess that explains his req 13 swords and daggers

*shiro is 14 and gets req 13 sword and req 13 daggers for x-mas*

shiro:mom these skins suck and the mods are crap!
parents:well we couldent afford anything else shiro!

[Shinigami God]

With those weps, Shiro was probably emo! o.O That's where the scars really came from...

[Quintus Antonius]

Don't make comments like that again please.

[Qin Li]

We know he was fighting off bandit raids when the Emperor noticed his greatness and potential. There is nothing suggesting that he was "evil" prior to that fateful Harvest Day ceremony. Even then one can argue that he was manipulated by Abaddon.

It'd be a pity to reduce this character to a one-dimensional villain. I see a potential variance of "The Phantom Menace." Perhaps one day I will write a short story about it. Hopefully it will not be a straight knock-off. :grin:

[Quintus Antonius]

Actually, the Lore guide says he was incredibly skilled at the dark arts. That's a pretty big "evil" suggestion right there. At best, Shiro was simply riding the fence, and hadn't decided to be good or evil yet.

[Erasculio]

Actually, the Lore guide says he was incredibly skilled at the dark arts. That's a pretty big "evil" suggestion right there. At best, Shiro was simply riding the fence, and hadn't decided to be good or evil yet.

I don't have the Lore Guide myself, but, assuming we're talking about the same thing (the Prima Book Guide for Factions), I have the feeling some of the things written there have been, ah, removed from the continuity.

For example, I was told it was mentioned there how the Seer was a trick done by the Ah Fahn to trick Shiro into killing the Emperor, while we learn otherwise in Nightfall.

Most of the things I have been told were written in the guild don't really fit with the Shiro we see in the Factions cinematics. I share Qin Li's opinion about him - I don't think Shiro was "evil", just a common man who found himself between killing his Emperor or be killed, made a choice out of despair (he didn't even have a escape plan, it appears) and was sent to Hell because of that.

Erasculio

[Quintus Antonius]

The Lore Guide was written by ANet, meaning it is cannon. And the thing you just said isn't in there. It says the Seer was a part of the Am Fah, the Am Fah also worshipped the Plague. I find is very logical to assume that Abaddon shaped the Am Fah by planting people in it to change the tide of fate, just like he did to the Charr, Orr, and eventually Kourna.

[Harjubal od Uo]

Actually, the Lore guide says he was incredibly skilled at the dark arts. That's a pretty big "evil" suggestion right there. At best, Shiro was simply riding the fence, and hadn't decided to be good or evil yet.

In Guild Wars, the "dark arts" don't necessarily mean evil as they do in so many other RPG universes. It's made pretty clear in the assassin training at Shing Jea that assassins are not only not considered inherently evil murderers but are, in fact, viewed in the popular mythology as upholders of balance and truth, weeding out wrongdoers in the bureaucracy and the underworld who, otherwise, would escape justice in the Empire. Panaku just as quickly shows that this is not the case even most of the time, but, supposedly, Canthan cultural heroes like Vizu were seen as righteous and just, even though they practiced the dark and shadow arts as their trade.

Even necromancers seem to be viewed in the GW universe as a necessarily uncomfortable and, perhaps, marginalized, but otherwise accepted, part of each major society we've run across so far, never being condemned, as a group, as inherently evil or dangerous.

In the morally ambiguous GW world, practicing the "dark arts" doesn't seem to indicate any greater inclination towards doing "evil" acts than practicing healing or protection magic would seem to incline one towards doing "good" acts, slaveherding Stone Summit priests being cases in point.

[Troal]

Imperial Captain Shi Wang: "Long ago, Shiro and I fought as brothers in the elite Imperial guard, and he was cold-blooded even then. Even so, none of us believed our eyes when he turned on Emperor Angsiyan and slew him."

I don't believe Shiro was evil before the Harvest Ceremony, but the seed was definitely there. Abaddon, through the Fortune Teller, just helped it grow...

[Nanashi]

Well Shiro did study the dark arts according to the back story which Apa (can't remember his whole name) posted in another thread. But those he killed were enemies to the imperials, the Am Feh and most likely corsairs at sea. No doubt he was a ruthless to them and considered a fierce warlord by those he was allied with an enemies with. He was good intended in my eyes until the Fortune teller told him he was going to die and the only escape was to kill his killer, Shiro denied that furiously. His mind was indeed torn by that as seen during the Unwaking Waters Mission. "You or the emperor.