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WingspanTT
26-04-2007, 19:37
I know the answer is probably just for art, but I was wondering if there was a Lore answer.

90% of the Jade sea is solid Jade, for hundreds of feet down, and in every direction. Why is it that, since Shiro's death, no pools of water have accumulated in the Jade Sea? There is no runoff possible, since every direction is solid jade. You would think the whole place would be underwater.

Like I said I know it would be dumb for the designers to make a Jade Sea then just throw it under water, but... any help?

Karuro
26-04-2007, 19:52
Maybe it's a "Just because" answer.
Shiro's deathwail turned the whole Jade Sea, which ironically was called that way before Shiro's death, into Jade.

ShadowReapr
26-04-2007, 20:26
One you get to a certain area, one of the river leading away from the sea, you'll notice it's actually water (at least displayed on the map as such). Presumably, with no where to go but back, the water doesn't flow.

As for accumulation... Evaporation? Don't see much rain in those parts, I suppose.

aptaleonII
26-04-2007, 20:33
There are pools of water around the Jade Sea, at the foot of the Qinkaishi mountains if i'm not mistaken. But on the actual jade itself... maybe there's just little rainfall.

Or, more interestingly, maybe the magic within the jade turns any new water that comes into contact with it into jade as well? We know there's still the power of the jade wind in essence... due to jade wind orbs. Plus, the Luxons & Kurzicks refer to the Jade as having magical properties.

However, personally i believe it's nothing special.

Shuuda
26-04-2007, 20:41
There is real water in Rhea's crater, just to let ya know.

aptaleonII
26-04-2007, 20:51
Ah yes, and there's a few waterfalls and pools around Kaanai Canyon. That kinda blows my shot-in-the-dark theory out of the water, but also answers the question; there is water, we just don't see much ingame.

Arkhan The Black
26-04-2007, 21:06
I would imagine a lot of water has also gathered in the mines scattered around the Jade Sea.

Quintus Antonius
26-04-2007, 21:13
I'm not sure what the OP is asking...the Jade Sea was turned to jade. So yeah, there's no "sea" because it was jadified. This is clearly explained in Factions if you read the quests, watch the cinemas, read the outposts, or read the Manuscripts.

It was already called the Jade Sea before it was turned to jade. In Asian, and especially Chinese culture, jade is a divine material, so it doesn't seem that odd to me that they named the sea the Jade Sea.

WingspanTT
26-04-2007, 21:27
Quintus,

I meant in the hundreds of years since the sea was solidified into Jade, how come the rain and outflow of estuaries have not covered OVER the jade with new water, since it can't drain anywhere? Although it does make sense that most would drain into the mines and craters.

I.E. if there was a lake in your city and you poured cement mix into it until it was all cement, eventually when it rained water would still fall on the cement. If the lake was big enough, some water would form pools and ponds, yknow? I think it's just a design choice but as some people said it prolly goes half into mines and half into evaporation. Probably also some animals drink whatever stays around.

Xycury
26-04-2007, 21:31
I'm not sure what the OP is asking...the Jade Sea was turned to jade. So yeah, there's no "sea" because it was jadified. This is clearly explained in Factions if you read the quests, watch the cinemas, read the outposts, or read the Manuscripts.

It was already called the Jade Sea before it was turned to jade. In Asian, and especially Chinese culture, jade is a divine material, so it doesn't seem that odd to me that they named the sea the Jade Sea.

I think we're beyond that......

if it rains on top of the jade, and it's solid, water goes somewhere...

thinking that the jade is semi-porous, and able to absorb water done to the greater depths.

Quintus Antonius
26-04-2007, 23:14
Quintus,

I meant in the hundreds of years since the sea was solidified into Jade, how come the rain and outflow of estuaries have not covered OVER the jade with new water, since it can't drain anywhere? Although it does make sense that most would drain into the mines and craters.

I.E. if there was a lake in your city and you poured cement mix into it until it was all cement, eventually when it rained water would still fall on the cement. If the lake was big enough, some water would form pools and ponds, yknow? I think it's just a design choice but as some people said it prolly goes half into mines and half into evaporation. Probably also some animals drink whatever stays around.

Ah okay, I apologize for my misunderstanding.

Well as mentioned, there are areas of water in the Jade Sea, I'm sure that some does seep through as well. Also, there are areas of the Jade Sea we can't explore, and because the water would reflect green, the map just might not show any rivers we don't have access to.

Ranger Nietzsche
26-04-2007, 23:18
well considering a MASSIVE amount of water that formerly contributed to the water table in that area, I would expect that rainfall dropped off significantly. Where would rain come from with 90% of the regions water now jade? A certain amount from the sea certainly, but still I think rainfall has pretty much trickled off. What little rain is still received probably does runoff a little bit.

Quintus Antonius
27-04-2007, 02:10
That...is a very excellent point.

Avoc
27-04-2007, 20:47
What is more interresting maybe, is why the water in the kurzik side of the wind didn't amberify the water?

Xycury
27-04-2007, 20:59
What is more interresting maybe, is why the water in the kurzik side of the wind didn't amberify the water?

Maybe the magical properties of the forest changes the jade wind...

just grasping here....

Kailden Jera
27-04-2007, 21:37
There must be abundant water in the Jade Sea, other wise there wouldn't be any green life there. And also, there are amphibious beings in the Jade Sea that live there.

And probably the trees in the Echovald Forest had something to do. They were direct hit by the Jade Wind, and were petrified. When in the Jade Sea, the sea was hit.

Also remember that the Jade Wind only turns things into stone, not into Jade (yeah, jade is a stone but you know what I meant) like the name says. Probably the event was named by the Luxons.

Troal
27-04-2007, 21:38
What is more interresting maybe, is why the water in the kurzik side of the wind didn't amberify the water?

Maybe they mined all the Jade in the Echovald and the water started flowing again.

madape
01-05-2007, 22:01
There must be rainfall in the Jade Sea considering the green 'islands' that are scattered all over it. There couldn't grow plantsif there wasn't any rainfall. Also while I was chest running this evening I discovered a pool of water in a former Jade Mine in the east of Gyala Hatchery.

-Ape

Gmr Leon
01-05-2007, 22:42
Out of curiosity if they were to mine the jade in front of that dam in front of the Thousand Daggers guild hall couldn't they slowly begin to refill portions of the Jade Sea with water? Although, would they even really want to do so? The jade makes them rich and provides transportation and siege weaponry..

Barinthus
02-05-2007, 06:57
Perhaps because jade in that area is worthless. Also where would the water go? The space the orginal sea was is now occupied by jade except for those areas mined.

Mularc Templare
02-05-2007, 08:26
As for Why the Kuzick areas are not "jadeified", my view at least, is that it has somthing to do with the Warden's and Urgoz himself. The maunal states that the wardens were once prtectors of the forest, completely untouched by the magic of the Jade Wind. It is reasonable to guess that this power came from their connection to Urgoz - being the ultimate incarnaton of nature below Merlundru herself wouls bestow upon one some fairly good protection.

Another guess would be that the Jade Wind didn't effect the water because it was blocked, filtered, if you will, by the trees. They are fairly broad, and would have absorbed much of the initial damage, and the areas whichy water flows are behind these areas. The trees probably all turned to stone due to their common link - the gigantic canopy of branches. It seems that basic earths (that is minerals and rocks themselves.) were the only things ever turned to Amber in the first place.

Grasping at straws....but I'd also project that whilst rainfall would've decreased, it wouldn't have been by such lenghts as 90% (I know you were probably fishing for numbers Niets. :P) As there is still quite a bit of water in the Ecovald. The life on the various islands we find around the place could also be drawing water from lower down on the table - in pools of water below some of the jade?

Mularc