Advice on my Elem/MEsmer build

[FowerFighter]

Hello everyone,

I'm an elementalist/mesmer,

Atm I have this:
Lvl: 20
INpsiration: 9
Air: 10
Energy Storage 10:

Energy Storage modified to: 12
Air modified to; 11

Skills
Lightning Strike
Enervating Charge
Blinding flash*
Chain Lightning
Air attuenemnt
Energy Tap
Spirit of Failure*
Rez signet

* I like to cast spirit of failure on a warrior, which will get me 3 energy every time he misses, and gives him a 25% chance to miss,
Then add blinding flash, 90% chance to miss: 0,10 * 0,75 = 0,075
So that whould make a 7,5% chance to HIT :happy14:

So I will gain mass amounts of energy and the warrior will become rather useless.
Anyway I just switched to air, and I do not like the dmg, what am I doing wrong?

[LordDragon]

Well, just glanced at your build, so only going to make a couple superficial suggestions.

First off, no Elites? I would suggest Elemental Attunement at least, swap it for air attunement. Should last about as long with your build and it will give a 50% reduction.

For damage Lightning Orb. It does double lightning strikes damage, only has a 2 sec cast and 5 sec recharge. The 15 energy is a bit high, but with elemental attunement that becomes 7.5, so not huge.

And your stats. Air is going to be doing 90% if your damage, so how about 10 in Energy, 12 in Air, and 8 in Inspiration, as base stats. And I would pump air with runes/gear before energy storage myself. Having air 14 for instance as opposed to the 11(with gear) in yours makes a sizeable damage difference.

Now, not sure why you want Enervating Charge in this build. You are already heavily 90% blindness, so weakness on top of that is kind of pointless. Without weakness being useful, this is just an expensive low damage spell. But you might want something so you can chain cast after all. Lightning javelin does a shade more damage, and interrupts an attack instead of causing weakness. Might not work well with your blindness combo though.

As for the whole blindness/spirit of failure combo, my worry is that a smart warrior is just going to stop attacking while 90% blind when he sees what is happening. With the natural 25% blindness he would probably risk it, but not when he is taking damage instead of hitting 9/10 times. Depends on the target I suppose.

[FowerFighter]

Well, I only got lightning surge and Mantra of recall,
Where can I get elemental attunement,
And i'm trying out lightnig orb now,
I didn't took it cause of its high energy cost and not that great dmg, :eek:

But I'm gonna try it now :winking47

[Diceclock]

So you have no way to heal yourself. You have no real plan vs. any kind of caster. You can't remove buffs or remove debuffs on yourself. Your entire battle plan would be screwed by anyone who can remove debuffs. I'll give you props for carrying a Rez though.


....back to the drawing board.

[FowerFighter]

SOrry for my noobisity, what is a Debuff,
And this mainly is for pvp, so I wil have other ppl helping me :happy34:

[Raved]

Uhm lightning orb not that great dmg? It's one of the best single target damage spells in the game (probably the best). You have to consider the fact that it has 25% armor penetration, vs a foe with 60AL (foe will normally receive 100% damage) lightning orb adds another 25% of the stated damage.

On a side note: Arcane Echo + lighting orb + elemental attunement = insane dps

[FowerFighter]

AL.

What's that,

Sorry I'm not good at all that, since i couldn't notice any statistical information about guildwars, now it happens there is,
Where can I find more ifnormation about it?
Thanks in advance..
And Dps..

I'm getting crazy of all those shorts.. :confused:

[Diceclock]

Sorry

Debuff = Hex

Buff = Enchantment

Arena = obviously scared of copyrights or claims on the standard terminology of Buff/Debuff.

So without a way to Remove Hexes, you could be hit with things like Backfire, which do 120+ damage to you when you cast, or you could be Dazed or a bunch of other stuff. Backfire gives you the choice between nuking yourself to death quickly, or standing there to be nuked to death slowly, or running away to be nuked to death in an average sort of fashion. :surprise:

[FowerFighter]

Okie, ANd what about the whole AL, Dps thingy.

What is it and some explanation please,

Thanks for everyone who helped me so far, Good input, keep it coming :happy34:

[LordDragon]

Okie, ANd what about the whole AL, Dps thingy.

What is it and some explanation please,

Thanks for everyone who helped me so far, Good input, keep it coming :happy34:


AL = Armor Level
DPS = Damage Per Second

Basically they measure how much damage you do, and how much you can take:)

[FowerFighter]

Uhm lightning orb not that great dmg? It's one of the best single target damage spells in the game (probably the best). You have to consider the fact that it has 25% armor penetration, vs a foe with 60AL (foe will normally receive 100% damage) lightning orb adds another 25% of the stated damage.

On a side note: Arcane Echo + lighting orb + elemental attunement = insane dps

Arcane echo:
If you cast a spell in the next 10-26 seconds, Arcane Echo is replaced with that spell for 20 seconds. Arcane Echo ends prematurely if you use a non-spell skill.

I do not see the use?
And how is The AL calculted, and the damage is 100% at AL 60, and 110% at AL 50?

[Darklyre]

The use of Arcane Echo is that because almost all skills lock after use, having a duplicate of a spell can be useful. Imagine double Mind Burns, or double Phoenixes. Or Backfire/Empathy on two different targets! ;)

[FowerFighter]

Now I've got quite some input and stuff,
But when what skills should I have now, Since I can't have more than 8 :(

[FowerFighter]

Please guys?
YOu have helped alot so far,
But I've been trieing to come up with something good, But I just can't get a build which seems to work good,


Details
Its mainly for PVP,

Can go Air/fire/Earth
I just wanna be able to do loads of dmg and maybe shut down,
I like inspiration magic to steal energy but thats up to you..

[phatdawg]

Why don't you scratch up some skills that you want to use?
Get the attribute calculator from gwonline main site, and play around with it.
It's a very nice tool.

If we have something to start with, the people here will be able to make it better. But it's kinda hard to choose from just inspiration and lightning and hand it over on a silver platter.

[FowerFighter]

Guess no1 is willing to help :(

[LordDragon]

Guess no1 is willing to help :(

Lol, and here I thought there were 2 pages full of advice. But no one is going to design your build for you, you have to do that. Besides, there is no one best build, all have strengths and weaknesses.

[Im Bogus]

i can see your gonnna have lots of problem with large mobs... get urself some area dmg of heavy defense in case ur surounded.

i would spoil ur fun by saying ill recomend water-fire elementalist with mesmer suport as the most balanced for this build.

by the Buff/debuff stuff... try inspirated hex / ench... are fun and not expensive.

[FowerFighter]

This is mainly for PVP btw..

[weltallx]

Guess no1 is willing to help :(

Before youy read i am not trying to be mean, im just telling you the truth



You keep sayng this is for pvp, and that u want ppl to give u a set of skills.

Well pvp does not work this way, unless u are going with a bunch of random people (this will never work against an organized team, such as a good guild). The proper way to make a good character build is to talk to your team. First you need to decide the teams build(theme). It could be a warrior heavy build for example. For this build you would want to use the knockdown spells to your advantage, and the blindness spells. A reason for this is that the opponent cant do a thing if they are knocked down except take damage. This is probably the worst condition in the game (if u can classify it as a condition). The team has to work together. No one person should have skills that the rest of the team does not know about and work well with. To make a long story short It is impossible to tell you how to make your character.

Im assuming you are a complete n00b who will never be anything but a n00b. The reason for this is not because i am mean it is because u just dont understand the basic concepts of guild vs guild(gvg) battle. This is not really something that can be taught. Its just a way of thinking. The people who excelle in gvg/pvp are the people who think strategically, have really good teamwork, and are able to stay 4 steps ahead of their enemy.

I've seen a lot of posts like this that say things like "is this a good build", and because of the variety in how people play the game it is impossible to tell someone how 2 make a good build. You can only give a person advice, but with that advice comes more than 8 skills. (There actaully is an answer to your question right here, but your prabably not smart enough to find it)

The fact that you asked this question just shows that you will never be anything but a n00b in pvp, and im not trying to be mean im just being real.

[FowerFighter]

You posted the same exact thing on another thread-.-

So stop acting like you know it all,
You can make a Pvp build and then get into a team and modify it to their needs..

[Syrous]

Before youy read i am not trying to be mean, im just telling you the truth



You keep sayng this is for pvp, and that u want ppl to give u a set of skills.

Well pvp does not work this way, unless u are going with a bunch of random people (this will never work against an organized team, such as a good guild). The proper way to make a good character build is to talk to your team. First you need to decide the teams build(theme). It could be a warrior heavy build for example. For this build you would want to use the knockdown spells to your advantage, and the blindness spells. A reason for this is that the opponent cant do a thing if they are knocked down except take damage. This is probably the worst condition in the game (if u can classify it as a condition). The team has to work together. No one person should have skills that the rest of the team does not know about and work well with. To make a long story short It is impossible to tell you how to make your character.

Im assuming you are a complete n00b who will never be anything but a n00b. The reason for this is not because i am mean it is because u just dont understand the basic concepts of guild vs guild(gvg) battle. This is not really something that can be taught. Its just a way of thinking. The people who excelle in gvg/pvp are the people who think strategically, have really good teamwork, and are able to stay 4 steps ahead of their enemy.

I've seen a lot of posts like this that say things like "is this a good build", and because of the variety in how people play the game it is impossible to tell someone how 2 make a good build. You can only give a person advice, but with that advice comes more than 8 skills. (There actaully is an answer to your question right here, but your prabably not smart enough to find it)

The fact that you asked this question just shows that you will never be anything but a n00b in pvp, and im not trying to be mean im just being real.

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Ok, let us start by saying the normal, most overused statement in any video game, yet the most true of all- GET A LIFE!!!! (and for god's sake, learn to type "YOU")

Ok, on to the more interesting matters. First, off, they did not ask for a guild vs guild template. They asked simply for help (and feedback) on their template. Your opinion, although interesting, is irrelavant.

You, sadly, are far more of a n00b than they could hope to be (and a bit of a jerk at that). If you actually bothered to try real PvP (try Shadowbane some time) you would know that templates can be quite useful in any scenario. If you have a crap build, it doesnt matter how good you are at PvP, how strategic you are, or even how good your team is- you will get *** raped by every person out there.

I personally see no problem using templates. Why? Because its nice to actually know what works. A template is something to work with, not an end-all, never use anything again set in stone cause I wanna die character. It is a start, something for them to work with (and on) in the many years of playing to come.

Chances are you- are the n00b, who simply has the bad luck of being incapable of finding a decent template (or building one), and have a great deal of bitterness towards those who actually can. Or, better yet, you are a sad soul with little better to do than spend 14 hours a day staring at your screen trying to win every little battle and getting pissed that the only thing in your life (apparently GVG on a non-subscription based game) is not working out for you either. :-P

I know what your answers will be. You will say that I am a n00b. I know nothing. That you are really some 6'6" 200lb football player with 14 girlfriends who spends half an hour on guild wars a day, and level a character to 20 in each half hour and so and so forth. That you can pk anyone and your are so awesome blah blah. But the simple fact is- you came out here and wasted our time with such a pathetic, and even more useless, post.

There, done flaming the jackass. On to the actual poster-

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I wouldnt even bother asking anyone if the template is good. I myself am working on an aeromancer and I've learned this- NO ONE HAS ONE. :-P Everyone will have to go off generalized information, so really you won't know till ya try it.

Anything can work if ya just stick with it and learn how to play it. ;)

[phatdawg]

Heh...

Apparently this weltallx guy just go around some threads and post the same thing over and over again.
I wonder if he feels good doing it...

[Diceclock]

You could do what I've done. Make such an awesome character that the guild you join see's how uber it is and they all abandon their current characters and roll a copy of yours :happy14: