Mesmers Soloing the Underworld

[Butterat]

Since jesterbot's posted his final results for his invinci-monk build (seen here: http://forums.gwonline.net/showthread.php?t=362793 ) that had monk superior rune prices all over 50k for like a week solid, I thought now would be as good a time as any to move on to a super build for my favorite profession, the Mesmer.

Now, in a recent thread i created asking for bigger monsters to be implemented in the new expansion/free summer update (seen here: http://forums.gwonline.net/showthread.php?p=3644008#post3644008 ), I made the mistake of mentioning that my mesmer can tank aatxes in the underworld (not solo the whole thing). This got me more than one pm in my gwonline mailbox and prompted a couple different discussions on what my "secret build" was to take on the underworld.

Well, I just wanted to let the gaming community know that i think i have everything cracked, not just for taking on aatxes, but for doing solo smite runs with a mesmer. I'll be spending the next day or so testing, taking screenies, and trying different combinations, but i have full faith that the mesmer, too, can be invincible... Now for a name... invinci- has already been taken.

I officially dub this build the Power Mesmer, since that's what i've been advertising myself as when LFG-ing in ToA. You'll see what i'm talking about when i return. This build will own all.

Until then, Happy Questing!

Butterat Zool,
Member of the Guild of DRIA. (Hail DRIA!)

[SinBin]

Nice job mate get them off our poor monks backs.

[michaeldt]

This is so refreshing, after weeks of anti-monk builds, anti-economy etc. its so nice to see people actually putting some thought into the game. Well done, I look forward with anticipation to see what you've come up with :)

[Serendipity]

Oh no ! Please nerf the Power Mesmer ! It is overpowered, I cant buy any new mesmer runes now !


Just kidding.
But I bet you ll see at least one post like that next week. :)

And congratulations to the OP.

This is what makes GW a great game. If you are smart, you can come up with solutions to every situations. (I am not but it is cool to read posts from smarter players :) )

[Fenric]

Nice one, look forward to seeing a video of this.


P.S. Please nobody do one for the rangers, we like being the rare profession who are in high demand for our trapping skills and knowing all our upgrades and runes are dirt cheap when we want them :D

[ultimastrike]

Let me guess:

Me/Mo

Signet of Midnight
Epidemic
Distortion
Spirit of Failure
Balthazar's Spirit
Symbol of Wrath
Protective Bond
Mending/Healing Breeze

This build has gotten me, solo, through most of the underworld. I've been using it for months. It's tricky, however, because too many enemies at once can still overpower spirit of failure and break your bond.

[michaeldt]

Let me guess:

Me/Mo

Signet of Midnight
Epidemic
Distortion
Spirit of Failure
Balthazar's Spirit
Symbol of Wrath
Protective Bond
Mending/Healing Breeze

This build has gotten me, solo, through most of the underworld. I've been using it for months. It's tricky, however, because too many enemies at once can still overpower spirit of failure and break your bond.


um... how on earth do you keep up the energy cost on this one?

[Hawkian]

um... how on earth do you keep up the energy cost on this one?

Balthazar's Spirit...

[michaeldt]

um ,that gives you 1 nrg per hit. prot bond at 12 drains 3 nrg per hit. so you'd need to have spirit of failure on all nearby foes to gain any nrg at all.

PLUS: symbol of wrath being the only smite, that must take forever to kill a mob....

[ultimastrike]

I'm sorry, I meant balthazar's Aura.

With inspiration sufficiently high, Spirit of Failure gives you five energy every time the target misses for about 30 seconds - and the combination of blindness and distortion ensures that they ALWAYS miss. AS long as you make sure you only tank small groups of 3 or 4 it's extremely easy to do. Since the enemies actually hitting you is a rare occurence, it doesn't really matter what protective bond does or does not drain.

This is more complicated and requires a lot more attention and skill than a 55 hp monk, but it's still very doable.

[michaeldt]

I'm sorry, I meant balthazar's Aura.

With inspiration sufficiently high, Spirit of Failure gives you five energy every time the target misses for about 30 seconds - and the combination of blindness and distortion ensures that they ALWAYS miss. AS long as you make sure you only tank small groups of 3 or 4 it's extremely easy to do. Since the enemies actually hitting you is a rare occurence, it doesn't really matter what protective bond does or does not drain.

This is more complicated and requires a lot more attention and skill than a 55 hp monk, but it's still very doable.


sure sounds alot more complicated :) but i'd love to see this one in action :happy65:

[ultimastrike]

I'll be honest with ya - smites are probably the most difficult enemies to face down there with this build, mainly because their zelot fire is not affected by either distortion OR blindness - so it hits every time, and drains 3 energy every time. If it's smite runs you're after, you should probably take a monk buddy to maintain the protective bond on you, since he can do so at a much reduced cost.

It's a lot more fun to solo UW with a mesmer because of the challenge involved. I generally go with a friend anyway, because it gets boring being antisocial.

[Martian Tristar]

I officially dub this build the Power Mesmer, since that's what i've been advertising myself as when LFG-ing in ToA. You'll see what i'm talking about when i return. This build will own all.

Until then, Happy Questing!

Butterat Zool,
Member of the Guild of DRIA. (Hail DRIA!)

Sorry mate that name has allready been taken by the rangers:

POWER RANGERS :lol:

[SinBin]

Let me guess:

Me/Mo

Signet of Midnight
Epidemic
Distortion
Spirit of Failure
Balthazar's Spirit
Symbol of Wrath
Protective Bond
Mending/Healing Breeze

This build has gotten me, solo, through most of the underworld. I've been using it for months. It's tricky, however, because too many enemies at once can still overpower spirit of failure and break your bond.

This is very common as the guys about to do something nice now out the wood work comes the iv had it for ages crowed BUT you wasnt gunno tell noone was ya ?.

Leave this guy to finish his post & vid he due any credit from it since hes showing it to the public first.

Still I hope he dont use the monk secoundary.

Edit : if ya have posted it maybe in messer forum I apologise in advance.

[daftman]

This is very common as the guys about to do something nice now out the wood work comes the iv had it for ages crowed BUT you wasnt gunno tell noone was ya ?.

Leave this guy to finish his post & vid he due any credit from it since hes showing it to the public first.

Still I hope he dont use the monk secoundary.

Edit : if ya have posted it maybe in messer forum I apologise in advance.

Yea a Me/Ele or an Me/Nec will be absolutely impresive and definitely will knock me off my chair.

[tranceaddict]

heh i thought were not supposed to leak this build :mad:

[ultimastrike]

This is very common as the guys about to do something nice now out the wood work comes the iv had it for ages crowed BUT you wasnt gunno tell noone was ya ?.

Leave this guy to finish his post & vid he due any credit from it since hes showing it to the public first.

Still I hope he dont use the monk secoundary.

Edit : if ya have posted it maybe in messer forum I apologise in advance.

I'm not doing a single thing to stop the guy from posting. Chill out, this is not that serious.

And yes, I HAVE posted versions of this build, so I accept your apology.

Mesmer to mesmer, I'm sure this gentleman can appreciate me speculating about the build he uses. And if it's something completely different, you just got two different UW mesmer builds for the price of one, so enjoy it.

[Butterat]

Yea a Me/Ele or an Me/Nec will be absolutely impresive and definitely will knock me off my chair.

Hmm... a special request...

Seeing as i'm already playing a mesmer/necro, give me a little extra time, and i'll see if i can bend the build to fit that mold. That just might work.


Sorry mate that name has allready been taken by the rangers:

POWER RANGERS

And i always thought that the solo ranger build was called the...

...Lone Ranger. :surprise:

Well, back to grinding out the skill points I need...

BZ.

[Martian Tristar]

And i always thought that the solo ranger build was called the...

...Lone Ranger. :surprise:

Well, back to grinding out the skill points I need...

BZ.

rofl another name taken by the rangers ;)

[FireWyvern]

ooo, I want to see this. Hopefully you can teach us cause god does my mesmer need exp...

[Bork Bork]

I've got it to the point where I can tank (ie just stand pretty while they miss me :lol: ) but all my energy is devoted to gaining more energy and keeping the hits away. No solo for me, but the 2-3 runs at least are doable.

[tranceaddict]

Has anyone tried this with griffons? :confused:

Although your hit rate would increase exponentially the more griffons you have :(

[ultimastrike]

Has anyone tried this with griffons? :confused:

Although your hit rate would increase exponentially the more griffons you have :(

Yeah, the build I posted works pretty well for them. the devourers are a pain in the butt simply because often they REFUSE to get into a tiny group and die.

[death stella]

I have spent alot of time reading this thread and taking in all the info before I make my Lovely Killer Mes/mo. But what I am not seeing here is how you spred your Points out. If you would be so kind as to share this info I would be very thankful.
Stella

[Butterat]

I have made amazing progress with this build, and what i have come up with is an all-mesmer skillset that can reliably take on three aatxes at once, solo.

I am currently typing up a second-by-second account of the battle to prove that the math works. I am at around the 30 second mark, and i have found that you can kill the first of the three aatxes in 20 seconds flat. This means that not only is this build mathematically possible, but also that it can kill its (albeit smaller) horde faster than an invinci-monk can.

When this detailed battle play-by-play is done, i will post it, then take the theory to the UW for practical testing, where screenies will be my friends. Can anybody tell me a good way to capture video and how to post it on here?

For a further glimpse into this build, I will tell you all that it's based simply on the law of averages and a lot of ugly math. I knew that I took 2 and a half years of college statistics for a reason. Anyway, the goal of the build that i set for myself is to be able survive the battle 80% of the time, which i believe at this point that it will do admirably.

Finally, some of you have approximated my skillset well, and even worked out one or another of the combinations used here, but I'll tell you now that nobody has it down even within 3 skills yet.

I look forward to unveiling my Power Mesmer to the world in the very near future, though this definately won't have superior mesmer runes hitting 70k apiece. All i can say now is "You'll see."

Peace.

Butterat Zool,
IGN - Lia Amannodel, 500k xp Me/N
Individual age: aaprox. 300 hours,
Member of the Guild of DRIA. (Hail DRIA!)

[tranceaddict]

To all the people who have helped and contributed to this 'goddess'ly build:

:love30::love30::love30:

don't mind if i come along to take screenies or help with testing or what not? :D

[Huldaerus]

can not wait for this, I was a Me/W itching to solo underworld!

[noggieca]

I use Fraps (http://www.fraps.com) for video capture. Buy it to add sound.

[Beqxter]

Fraps is basically the industry standard, but you'll have to shell out ~$40 if you want clips longer than 30 seconds (and sound).

I've heard good things about Gamecam, which is free, but haven't tried it personally. You can find it at Planetgamecam.

[Huldaerus]

is there anything that doesn't massively slow down the game? I have everything maxed on my comp but the frame rates on fraps can't keep up, so it slows down the game for me too :(.

[roguebanshee]

Reduce resolution & fx options while doing a video.

No one needs a 1280x1024/8x FSAA/Full fx video to see what is happening. Beyond that it just takes up too much space to do large resolution videos, you also take longer to save each frame due to larger filesize.

Lower resolution = lower filesize = less extra stress on your computer while capturing.

[MrFish]

yeah he's right, just drop eveything to "low" and when you're done, hit the "detect settings" button or whatever and it'll reset back to what's best for your pc.

[Wrath of God]

As for how my mesmer takes on aatxes alone, here's all you get:
1. A full slate of mesmer skills, no secondary skills.
2. 2 two-skill combinations, a linker skill, an illusion skill, and two domination skills. There's an elite skill somewhere in there, too.
3. It only works if you're patient and just a little bit lucky (Not majorly lucky, just a little lucky. It's consistent, just not 100% successful.).
4. I have 3 ranks of inspiration magic.


Okay, let me guess.

Illusion skill = Distortion/Ineptitude

Linker Skill = Spirit of Failure/Epidemic/Spirit Shackles

2 Domination = Empathy and Shatter Delusions/Mind Wrack

I'm not quite sure about the elite though. Hmmm!

BTW what's a linker skill? A skill from another attribute? Then the linker would be Epidemic. The reason why you said lucky is because Axte can penetrate evasion with Wild Blow but they need energy for this so... hey are you trying to Mind Wrack them to death? You did say 3 Inspiration. So I'm guessing 12 Domination and 12 Illusion. What do you guys think, I think I'm pretty close!

[death stella]

I .

I look forward to unveiling my Power Mesmer to the world in the very near future, though this definately won't have superior mesmer runes hitting 70k apiece. All i can say now is "You'll see."

Peace.

Butterat Zool,


Well all I can say is I am not going to use any of my points till I know! LOL
This should make things fun Huh ;). I had a MEs lv 16 but she was my 1st char. And I did not really get in to her. It was not till after my other 3 lv 20 charr that I started to think abotuthe dmg a mes could do if built right. SO I am really looking forward to this build!! I dont pvp so it will all be for pve. (I just dont get a kick out of pvp) but any way :love38: to all of the ppl working on this MES build :love19:

[Butterat]

To all the people who have helped and contributed to this 'goddess'ly build:

:love30::love30::love30:

don't mind if i come along to take screenies or help with testing or what not? :D

You were more or less the one who got me motivated to devlop this build for all it was worth, so i'd be more than happy to bring you along for testing. PM me in-game and you can be the first to see this refined build in action.

IGN - Lia Amannodel

BZ.

[Patccmoi]

Okay, let me guess.

Illusion skill = Distortion/Ineptitude

Linker Skill = Spirit of Failure/Epidemic/Spirit Shackles

2 Domination = Empathy and Shatter Delusions/Mind Wrack

I'm not quite sure about the elite though. Hmmm!

BTW what's a linker skill? A skill from another attribute? Then the linker would be Epidemic. The reason why you said lucky is because Axte can penetrate evasion with Wild Blow but they need energy for this so... hey are you trying to Mind Wrack them to death? You did say 3 Inspiration. So I'm guessing 12 Domination and 12 Illusion. What do you guys think, I think I'm pretty close!

Ha, talked about this with a friend and we came to a build very similar to this.

Signet of Midnight (you need continuous blind, Ineptitude can't provide that)
Epidemic
Distortion
Spirit of Failure
Spirit Shackle
Arcane Echo
Mind Wrack
Empathy

Basically start fight by casting Spirit of Failure than run up close in Distortion not to die while doing Midnight-Epidemic, Shackle a target, Empathy it and start Arcane Echo-Mind Wrack spamming on it for very fast kill (you must keep fights as short as possible since there is always a POSSIBILITY that you get hit, and that's death after 2-3).

It seems like it could work (can't try right now, my Mes has still 1 mission to go until Ascending and needs to cap Midnight!) but would need to test it. Energy should never be a problem since you can easily Spirit of Failure 2-3 enemies and then you have an endless source.

I doubt this is OP build tough considering he said he has only 3 points in inspiration and i only use 1 Illusion skill, but i guess it must be similar, at least the distortion + midnight + epidemic which mostly everyone figured out.

[Wrath of God]

You only need one. Either Distortion or Blinds. Distortion would probably be better since you don't need Epidemic to spread it. I think how the Aaxte hits you through evasion is with Wild Blow. A way to stop this can be energy denial since it takes 5 energy and warriors usually have a low energy regeneration.

[Patccmoi]

You only need one. Either Distortion or Blinds. Distortion would probably be better since you don't need Epidemic to spread it. I think how the Aaxte hits you through evasion is with Wild Blow. A way to stop this can be energy denial since it takes 5 energy and warriors usually have a low energy regeneration.

You only need one?! No way, can't take this risk. Aaxte kill you in 2 hits, 3 if you're lucky. In 20 seconds (let's say you can kill them in that time, that's what OP said and i doubt he's lying! I think Arcane Echo Wrack like i said stacked with Empathy would likely kill one really really fast, don't think i could kill 3 in 20 sec tough), 2 of them hit you over 30 times total. You think that not 2-3 of these hits will go through with 75% dodge? You're asking to dodge over 90% with a 75% dodge stance, this just can't work 80% of the time, you're lucky if it works 10%, and if you add a third aaxte it seems like it's impossible for you to make it.

[Wrath of God]

No, you use Spirit of Failure to make the Aaxte hit to 100% miss. First Distortion is 75% to dodge and 25% Spirit of Failure should make it with 100%. You Arcane Echo Spirit of Failure so you can cast it on both Aaxte. I'm pretty sure this stacks though and that it'll give you 100% to make them miss. Having them miss 100% of the time and gaining energy from Spirit of Failure will cover all the energy you need even with 3 Inspiration. How they hit through is with Wild Blow (I think). This hits through evasion and destroys any stance. Wild Blow takes energy though so what I think he does is Mind Wrack them to death.

[Nobleman Azure]

You cannot make them do 100% miss, though with blind making a 90% miss rate, its possible to dumb it down to a very little percent.

The reason you need distortion is to cast it while you re-blind and re-epidemic the aatxes. While you do this you are vulnerable for les sthan 2 seconds and that could be very very deadly.

[Butterat]

In 20 seconds (let's say you can kill them in that time, that's what OP said and i doubt he's lying!

Actually, about that, i forgot my own calculations. The first kill happens at about the 25 second mark. I didn't realize this until it was too late to edit my post, but was planning on mentioning that in my article. Also, not that that's 25 seconds until one aatxe dies, not all three.


No, you use Spirit of Failure to make the Aaxte hit to 100% miss. First Distortion is 75% to dodge and 25% Spirit of Failure should make it with 100%. You Arcane Echo Spirit of Failure so you can cast it on both Aaxte. I'm pretty sure this stacks though and that it'll give you 100% to make them miss. Having them miss 100% of the time and gaining energy from Spirit of Failure will cover all the energy you need even with 3 Inspiration. How they hit through is with Wild Blow (I think). This hits through evasion and destroys any stance. Wild Blow takes energy though so what I think he does is Mind Wrack them to death.

*Sigh* How many people do i have to tell this to? Percentages don't work like that. They don't work like that in GW, they don't work like that at banks, they don't work like that on doctoral dissertations. 75%+25% DOES NOT EQUAL 100%. 75%+25%=93.75%. As a matter of fact, unless you had a skill or spell that prevented 100% of the thingy in question, you will NEVER, no matter how many skills you stack, reach 100% prevention.

Therefore, kids, let it be known that using two condoms at the same time is NOT 198% effective at preventing things which condoms were designed to prevent.

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Finally, I'm almost done. The actual article though (yes, i said article. as of right now, it's about 1600 words long.) will be posted in a separate thread. It will detail my old build, my nuker build, my new Power Mesmer build, and a second-by-second walkthrough of the battle in question. Also, look for an explaination as to why adding mind wrack + spirit shackles into this build is a sad mistake.

The anticipation is killing me, and i already know what the thing says! Sorry this is taking a while, guys. I'll really be done soon.

Butterat Zool.

[tranceaddict]

You cannot make them do 100% miss, though with blind making a 90% miss rate, its possible to dumb it down to a very little percent.

The reason you need distortion is to cast it while you re-blind and re-epidemic the aatxes. While you do this you are vulnerable for les sthan 2 seconds and that could be very very deadly.

if you really really REALLY want to be safe, spam distortion while they are blinded. make sure you time it right so it syncs with SigofMidnight.

10% x 25% = 2.5% of a successful hit

[Butterat]

10% x 25% = 2.5% of a successful hit

See?!? THAT'S how percentages work!

I *heart* math.

BZ.

[Wrath of God]

*Sigh* How many people do i have to tell this to? Percentages don't work like that. They don't work like that in GW, they don't work like that at banks, they don't work like that on doctoral dissertations. 75%+25% DOES NOT EQUAL 100%. 75%+25%=93.75%. As a matter of fact, unless you had a skill or spell that prevented 100% of the thingy in question, you will NEVER, no matter how many skills you stack, reach 100% prevention.


This is not always true. Fire Attunement and Elemental Attunement does not work that way. They stack and you'll gain 80% of your energy back each time you cast a fire spell. Someone should test wheter Spirit of Failure stacks with Blinds or Distortion to give 100% miss.

I know how percentage works. I was surprised when some of the percents in this game started to add instead of multiply and then move that % 2 spaces and into a ".".

[tranceaddict]

This is not always true. Fire Attunement and Elemental Attunement does not work that way. They stack and you'll gain 80% of your energy back each time you cast a fire spell. Someone should test wheter Spirit of Failure stacks with Blinds or Distortion to give 100% miss.

nooooobleman!!! new test in request!! to see the best who are better than the rest! @ underworld!

ok ill shut up. :happy65:

[Wrath of God]

And your quoting me because?

[tranceaddict]

you said someone should test, i said that nobleman should do it

of course i already know that it doesnt stack because of my many failures testing the build lol

"OMG WTF HE'S BLIND AND S*** HOW THE **** DID HE HIT ME?!!??!?"

Your party has been defeated.
Your leader can return to the town outpost.

[Wrath of God]

Oh, I thought you said something else. Your sentence was a bit awkward, let me quote it.



nooooobleman!!! new test in request!! to see the best who are better than the rest! @ underworld!

ok ill shut up.


To see the best who are better than the rest @ underworld? What does that have to do with blinds or evasion stacks?

It might stack because evasion, missing, and blinds are 3, I repeat 3 different things! Missing is from Spirit of Failure, Evasion is from Distortion, Blind is from Signet of Midnight/Ineptitude.

[tranceaddict]

Oh, I thought you said something else. Your sentence was a bit awkward, let me quote it.



To see the best who are better than the rest @ underworld? What does that have to do with blinds or evasion stacks?

absolutely nothing. i was merely just rhyming with 'test' and 'request' :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Butterat]

This is not always true. Fire Attunement and Elemental Attunement does not work that way. They stack and you'll gain 80% of your energy back each time you cast a fire spell. Someone should test wheter Spirit of Failure stacks with Blinds or Distortion to give 100% miss.

I know how percentage works. I was surprised when some of the percents in this game started to add instead of multiply and then move that % 2 spaces and into a ".".

The difference there is that this is multiplying, and not adding the percentages. 90% of the time, the attack dot will be in "saved by blind"'s circle, 75% of the time, the dot will be in "saved by distortion"'s circle, and 25% of the time, the dot will be in "saved by spirit of failure"'s circle. You draw the venn diagram. .1x*.25x*.75x=.1875x

In the ele example, it's taking two percentages of the same number and adding them together. .3x+.5x=.8x If elemental attunement read something like "Anytime you would gain energy as a result of an elementalist spell, you instead gain 50% more energy from that spell." Well, then you would multiply, and then you'd get 45% of the casting cost back, and not 80%.

Finally, i'm done with the play-by-play. Just writing the conclusion. This will probably be posted tonight.

Butterat Zool.

[Nobleman Azure]

Come on we dont need to take things personally now ^_^ we are all helping each other in this thread right?

Anyways Ele attunement and ____ Attunement returns 80%, that is true. However, the calculation is still separate but there is a difference.

There are spells that modify to based on an original and spells that modify based on an altered value

For example, Lingering Curse and Deep wound does not do 70% heal reduction, it will do 60% here is why:

Monk heals for 100 HP
Lingering Curse reduces heal by 50%: 50% of 100 is 50. 100 - 50 = 50
Deep wound reduces heal by 20%: 20% of 50 is 10. 50 - 10 = 40
The healing now only does 40 because of a total of 60% reduction, not 70%

The numbers in bold is an example of an altered value, heal reduction hexes conditions and spirits are spells that mofify based on the altered value.


Now, Attunements

Elementalist Casts a fire spell that costed 20 energy
Elemental Attunement reduces by 50%: 50% of 20 is 10. You gain 10 energy
Fire attunement reduces by 30%: 30% of 20 is 6. You gain 6 energy
Totalling 16 energy which also happens to be 80% of the original

The italicized values are exampels of orginals. Attunement spells are examples of spells that modify based on the originals, not the new modified value. This does not mean it stacks, they are calculated separately, but it looks like they DO stack because the end result is similar to the result if you stacked the percentages and calculated.

[Doyle]

Finally, i'm done with the play-by-play. Just writing the conclusion. This will probably be posted tonight.

Butterat Zool.

Hmmm.. has something leaked out? I just noticed that all the superior mesmer runes (except for Inspiration) are sold out.

Hoping this doesn't require superior runes...

[ZariusZero]

See, the percentages apply differently in the case of an attunement, because it's doing a different thing. It's a percentage of a set, repeated value, not a probability of happening.

The way the probabilites work, is an overlapped test. It's actually two seperate percentages, but if both trigger, nothing special happens.

Example:
Blind - 90% chance to trigger
Distortion - 75% chance to trigger
Spirit of Failure - 25% chance to trigger.

Test 1: Blind (100% chance to reach this test)
90% chance to miss due to blind
10% chance to not miss due to blind

Test 2: Spirit of Failure (10% chance to reach this test)
25% chance to miss through spirit
75% chance to not miss due to spirit

Net chance: 92.5% chance to miss

Test 3: Distortion (7.5% chance to reach this test)
75% chance to be evaded
25% chance to not be evaded

Net chance: 98.125% to not be hit.

Visible Results:

92.5% chance - Target is missed, Gain energy = Spirit of Failure's listed value
5.625% chance - Target is Missed, Gain Energy = (Spirit of Failure's Gain - Distortion's loss)
1.875% chance - Target Hit. No Energy change.

[tranceaddict]

Hmmm.. has something leaked out? I just noticed that all the superior mesmer runes (except for Inspiration) are sold out.

Hoping this doesn't require superior runes...

I got my sup runes BILLIONS of years before everyone knew about this.

But anyways, you should be able to do it without sup runes. I have a major domination though...


92.5% chance - Target is missed, Gain energy = Spirit of Failure's listed value
5.625% chance - Target is Missed, Gain Energy = (Spirit of Failure's Gain - Distortion's loss)
1.875% chance - Target Hit. No Energy change.

Very well done elaboration on the probability of aatxe attacks :happy65:

[Dammerung]

Therefore, kids, let it be known that using two condoms at the same time is NOT 198% effective at preventing things which condoms were designed to prevent.
But using two condoms actually has a negative effect since the two will rub against each other and increase the possibility of it ripping! It won't even increase the % protection like stacking distortion and SoF....
errrr......anyways!

Well I was just thinking, I am all for this Power Mesmer (lol this name still cracks me up) build and all, but from what I read here lately (in the last few posts at the very least) people seems to be quite obsessive with using ONLY Mesmer line skills (Distortion + SoF + SoM). Is it really a wise idea to ignore secondary? Now I am not saying we should all load up on 5 sup runes and go with a weaker version of Monk's protection, but mixing the two up or maybe even consider another secondary profession might be more effective than using only mesmer skills.

[Butterat]

It's all done! You can expect to find my article in the community forum any minute now!!!

Thanks you all. It worked out BEAUTIFULLY!

BZ.

[tranceaddict]

I can't wait. :love57::love57::love57::love57:

[Naluh]

*Sigh* How many people do i have to tell this to? Percentages don't work like that. They don't work like that in GW, they don't work like that at banks, they don't work like that on doctoral dissertations. 75%+25% DOES NOT EQUAL 100%. 75%+25%=93.75%.
Butterat Zool.
Completely offtopic, but I'm a little rusty on the math thingie, could someone please explain this with an example so I can stop feeling like a retard?

Thanks in advance :)

[Zalotiye Slava]

Completely offtopic, but I'm a little rusty on the math thingie, could someone please explain this with an example so I can stop feeling like a retard?

Thanks in advance :)
Since order does not matter, I'll just go with the 75% first. The baddie has a 75% chance to miss. This means he hits you 25% of the time. Of that 25% of the time, he misses ANOTHER 25% of the time. This is 25%x25%, or .25*.25, or (1/4)x(1/4)= 1/16. This is equivalent to .0625, or 6.25%. That is 75%+6.25%=81.25%. Of the remaining 18.75% chance to hit, the baddie misses 90% of the time due to blindness. This leaves a 1.875% chance to hit, or 98.125% chance of missing. Simply put, they are applied after one another- to the remainder. That's about as simple as I can make it, look at ZaruisZero's post if you want all the math, this was just an example :\ Hope this helped!

[Naluh]

Hope this helped!

Sure did! :)