Eratimus
10-01-2006, 14:58
Over the past year since the release of Guild Wars and even during its Beta, me and a number of others have conducted research to uncover the lost languages and glyphs in GuildWars. This is still an ongoing project. For those who have yet to see what was originally found, I will give you the research thusfar. We are still seeking images and other sightings of runes. Please send anything that may be of use to eratimus@gmail.com
I am interested in any new runic findings in the new areas, ie Sorrow's Furnace etc or anything that has been release over the past months.
Research:
As found by multiple people in the Guild Wars Community, banners displaying a map of the world were found. After a short while, the runes were translated into a near complete alphabet. This alphabet has been thought as an ancient or old alphabet of the Orr, but this is still under scrutiny. While this alphabet is not complete, as we are still missing about 6 letters, it is complete enough to translate the whole map. This lead us to the discovery of the Crystal Desert before
any official release of its existence was made. It was also noted that
the runes used for these were a mixture of Norwegian - Swedish,
Fulthark, and Gothic Runes.
There were a few more sets of rune found that were quite original. The
runes found on the road signs were not of the Orrian Alphabet. We also
located runes on 4 obelisks located in the "Talkmark Wilderness" just
west of "The Black Curtain", which after some discussion, were soon
thought to be a zodiak of some kind. It was originally thought the
screen shot was taken in the Maguuma Desert, but I soon confirmed the
location to not be that far West, but to be just west of the Temple of
Ages.
We had also located what appear to be heirglyphs on he walls of the
Tomb of Primeval Kings which appear to be Egyptian, but were not able
to get clear enough imaging to decipher them. These same hieroglyphs
were recently found on the base of a Dragon Statue in the Crystal
Desert.
Crystal Desert findings:
As we finally gained access to the Crystal Desert once Guild Wars had
gone gold, we were introduced to 1 if not 2 separately new sets of
runes/glyphs.
Transporter Runes:
It would seem that the transporters used to magically move from one
transporter artifact to another have a ring of runes encircled which
we believe to be the origin of the magic. It may seem as if they are a
full set of runes all around, but in fact are 7 distinctly different
runes, reversed at least 4 times as they encircle the portal area.
These runes have yet to be seen anywhere else nor do they resemble any
others.
Ascension Runes:
There are another set of 5 glyphs found on multiple
pillars/towers/obelisks through out the Crystal Desert that give sight
of magical properties. Excitingly so, 3 of these glyphs are actually
found within the portal area one must travel to prior to your
Ascension Mirror Self battle. You must step on the correct sequence of
the three glyphs. We have yet to locate any other locations for the
remaining 2 glyphs anywhere else but those pullers.
Road Signs:
It would also seem there is another set of runes that all signs and
road posts are written in. These are similar to the ones found on the
Obelisks in the Talmark Wilderness , yet none are the same in
configuration. Additionally, no matter what their hover text
description of the sign is, ie Ascalon City or Yak's Bend, they say
they are written with the same r unes. Here is something odd though.
Post Searing Signs have different runes then Pre-Searing. What I mean
is, while all Post Searing signs are written with the same runes, and
all pre-searing are written with the same runes, the actual runes seen
pre and post are different in themselves. IF ArenaNet has a reason as
to why the signs all are written the same, it is thought the signs may
simply say, "This Way" or, "Over There" or the like to give a reason
as to why they all say the same thing.
Diety Statue Plaques:
Yet again we have more runes that are similar yet different from
others we found. Plaques found before statues have runes similar to
the Orrian, yet none are a match. The other quandary is, they too all
are written exactly the same. Whether the "hover text" of Statue of
Dwayna or for others are different, each and every plaque are written
with the sam exact runes in the say exact pattern, saying it says the
same thing. Which either this means they all say something, but is
something basic like Deity Statue, or the like, or again Arena Net
simply did not have an intention to have them mean anything and thus
make them all the same.
Latest Discovery between the Charr and Talkmark Wilderness Obelisks and Tomb Statues:
Recently, I obtained images of 2 banners and 1 pillar located in the
ruined Ascalon area. One banner included a fierce creature growling,
with runes running down both sides. The second shows what looks like a
lion or animal head with 4 wings protruding out of it, with the same
looking runes alone the sides, again seeing the same runes yet in
different orders along the edges speaking of it saying something else.
We also have a pillar that had the same runes, again not in the same
order, that both banners were written in. If I am not mistaken, as
they are inhabiting the locations now, these are banners, and is the
language of the Charr.
Here is the big focus on this, I discovered that at least 2 of the
runes on the banners and pillar, are nearly exactly the same as some
found on the Talmark Wilderness Obelisks. This brings into focus that
in fact both sets are the same language or similar languages, and
combining both, allows for a large list of the same alphabet or a
similar alphabet, bringing in the connection that they are not
separate, yet the same language. It has been stated that like real
life languages the inhabitants of the Talmark area could have adopted
a similar language as the Charr. But, I am not sure if ArenaNet would
have gone that far, if in fact theyh have gone as far as all this
actually meaning anything, which we all hope it does. So you must
wonder, if they are separate, yet adopted languages, what language
does the Talmark belong to? If they are the same language, which
points to being Charr, does this mean the Charr once were found in the
western lands of Kryta? It has also been suggested that this could be
an adopted language of the serpent creatures of legend, later adopted
by the Charr and the Talmark inhabitants.
A new discovery reveals that the same Tilmark runes are found at the base of the Statues on each side of the Tomb of Primeval Kings entrance. As to their meaning, as each one displays the same word or letters on everyone, is unknown.
Some great work has been done since we started, which I would like to
great thank eveyrone who has participated.
Although to be responsible, I have to say the obvious, that I know and
am aware of the fact that all this, all the runes, all the alphabets
could in fact lead to nothing, mean nothing, and ArenaNet has not, nor
intended all this work to be done, as it all is just eye candy having
no meaning what so ever.
I have also made efforts in the translations of the Primeval King Heiroglyphs. It has come to me that the alphabet is very similar to the Eqyptians, but certain symbols were modified to give varations between them to. I have uncovered some of the alphabet from these inscriptions and was able to partially translate a stone submited by Ogaming Moderator Eolan, thank you. Right now the translations are jumbled and no words can be found from them, it is still a great start in uncovering the hidden lore of Tyria.
As I stated before, I recently discovered that the runes found below the statues along each side of the entrance at the Tomb of Primeval Kings use the Tilmark Glyphs/Runes. I am still working on translating any letters or phrases from this alphabet.
Old Orrian Runic Alphabet:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6930/oldorrianalphabet0fc.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oldorrianalphabet0fc.jpg)
Map:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9253/ascalonmap8tq.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ascalonmap8tq.jpg)
Talmark Runes::
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2978/charrtilmarkalphabet0lj.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=charrtilmarkalphabet0lj.jpg)
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4416/charrbannerletters6tl.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=charrbannerletters6tl.jpg)
I am interested in any new runic findings in the new areas, ie Sorrow's Furnace etc or anything that has been release over the past months.
Research:
As found by multiple people in the Guild Wars Community, banners displaying a map of the world were found. After a short while, the runes were translated into a near complete alphabet. This alphabet has been thought as an ancient or old alphabet of the Orr, but this is still under scrutiny. While this alphabet is not complete, as we are still missing about 6 letters, it is complete enough to translate the whole map. This lead us to the discovery of the Crystal Desert before
any official release of its existence was made. It was also noted that
the runes used for these were a mixture of Norwegian - Swedish,
Fulthark, and Gothic Runes.
There were a few more sets of rune found that were quite original. The
runes found on the road signs were not of the Orrian Alphabet. We also
located runes on 4 obelisks located in the "Talkmark Wilderness" just
west of "The Black Curtain", which after some discussion, were soon
thought to be a zodiak of some kind. It was originally thought the
screen shot was taken in the Maguuma Desert, but I soon confirmed the
location to not be that far West, but to be just west of the Temple of
Ages.
We had also located what appear to be heirglyphs on he walls of the
Tomb of Primeval Kings which appear to be Egyptian, but were not able
to get clear enough imaging to decipher them. These same hieroglyphs
were recently found on the base of a Dragon Statue in the Crystal
Desert.
Crystal Desert findings:
As we finally gained access to the Crystal Desert once Guild Wars had
gone gold, we were introduced to 1 if not 2 separately new sets of
runes/glyphs.
Transporter Runes:
It would seem that the transporters used to magically move from one
transporter artifact to another have a ring of runes encircled which
we believe to be the origin of the magic. It may seem as if they are a
full set of runes all around, but in fact are 7 distinctly different
runes, reversed at least 4 times as they encircle the portal area.
These runes have yet to be seen anywhere else nor do they resemble any
others.
Ascension Runes:
There are another set of 5 glyphs found on multiple
pillars/towers/obelisks through out the Crystal Desert that give sight
of magical properties. Excitingly so, 3 of these glyphs are actually
found within the portal area one must travel to prior to your
Ascension Mirror Self battle. You must step on the correct sequence of
the three glyphs. We have yet to locate any other locations for the
remaining 2 glyphs anywhere else but those pullers.
Road Signs:
It would also seem there is another set of runes that all signs and
road posts are written in. These are similar to the ones found on the
Obelisks in the Talmark Wilderness , yet none are the same in
configuration. Additionally, no matter what their hover text
description of the sign is, ie Ascalon City or Yak's Bend, they say
they are written with the same r unes. Here is something odd though.
Post Searing Signs have different runes then Pre-Searing. What I mean
is, while all Post Searing signs are written with the same runes, and
all pre-searing are written with the same runes, the actual runes seen
pre and post are different in themselves. IF ArenaNet has a reason as
to why the signs all are written the same, it is thought the signs may
simply say, "This Way" or, "Over There" or the like to give a reason
as to why they all say the same thing.
Diety Statue Plaques:
Yet again we have more runes that are similar yet different from
others we found. Plaques found before statues have runes similar to
the Orrian, yet none are a match. The other quandary is, they too all
are written exactly the same. Whether the "hover text" of Statue of
Dwayna or for others are different, each and every plaque are written
with the sam exact runes in the say exact pattern, saying it says the
same thing. Which either this means they all say something, but is
something basic like Deity Statue, or the like, or again Arena Net
simply did not have an intention to have them mean anything and thus
make them all the same.
Latest Discovery between the Charr and Talkmark Wilderness Obelisks and Tomb Statues:
Recently, I obtained images of 2 banners and 1 pillar located in the
ruined Ascalon area. One banner included a fierce creature growling,
with runes running down both sides. The second shows what looks like a
lion or animal head with 4 wings protruding out of it, with the same
looking runes alone the sides, again seeing the same runes yet in
different orders along the edges speaking of it saying something else.
We also have a pillar that had the same runes, again not in the same
order, that both banners were written in. If I am not mistaken, as
they are inhabiting the locations now, these are banners, and is the
language of the Charr.
Here is the big focus on this, I discovered that at least 2 of the
runes on the banners and pillar, are nearly exactly the same as some
found on the Talmark Wilderness Obelisks. This brings into focus that
in fact both sets are the same language or similar languages, and
combining both, allows for a large list of the same alphabet or a
similar alphabet, bringing in the connection that they are not
separate, yet the same language. It has been stated that like real
life languages the inhabitants of the Talmark area could have adopted
a similar language as the Charr. But, I am not sure if ArenaNet would
have gone that far, if in fact theyh have gone as far as all this
actually meaning anything, which we all hope it does. So you must
wonder, if they are separate, yet adopted languages, what language
does the Talmark belong to? If they are the same language, which
points to being Charr, does this mean the Charr once were found in the
western lands of Kryta? It has also been suggested that this could be
an adopted language of the serpent creatures of legend, later adopted
by the Charr and the Talmark inhabitants.
A new discovery reveals that the same Tilmark runes are found at the base of the Statues on each side of the Tomb of Primeval Kings entrance. As to their meaning, as each one displays the same word or letters on everyone, is unknown.
Some great work has been done since we started, which I would like to
great thank eveyrone who has participated.
Although to be responsible, I have to say the obvious, that I know and
am aware of the fact that all this, all the runes, all the alphabets
could in fact lead to nothing, mean nothing, and ArenaNet has not, nor
intended all this work to be done, as it all is just eye candy having
no meaning what so ever.
I have also made efforts in the translations of the Primeval King Heiroglyphs. It has come to me that the alphabet is very similar to the Eqyptians, but certain symbols were modified to give varations between them to. I have uncovered some of the alphabet from these inscriptions and was able to partially translate a stone submited by Ogaming Moderator Eolan, thank you. Right now the translations are jumbled and no words can be found from them, it is still a great start in uncovering the hidden lore of Tyria.
As I stated before, I recently discovered that the runes found below the statues along each side of the entrance at the Tomb of Primeval Kings use the Tilmark Glyphs/Runes. I am still working on translating any letters or phrases from this alphabet.
Old Orrian Runic Alphabet:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6930/oldorrianalphabet0fc.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oldorrianalphabet0fc.jpg)
Map:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9253/ascalonmap8tq.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ascalonmap8tq.jpg)
Talmark Runes::
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2978/charrtilmarkalphabet0lj.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=charrtilmarkalphabet0lj.jpg)
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4416/charrbannerletters6tl.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=charrbannerletters6tl.jpg)