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Dzierzy Mierz
18-03-2006, 20:11
Found this...just the one, mind you in Majesty's Rest....it was in the dark forest area to the West of the Rotscale and his pals.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/Mil-IntSoldiersWIFE/gw852.jpg

The only creatures to be found anywhere near it were Ancient Oakhearts. I won't imply that they are not intelligent enough to make and hang idols (?).

It kind of resembles a bird....and has a glowie red stone....perhaps a ruby (too bad I couldn't rip it from it's hanging spot and salvage it, huh?)....


Kinda neat anyway....would love to hear any theories :)

Ashberry
18-03-2006, 20:15
Krytan Witch project?

... ok I'm taking the p*ss, but then I thought ooooh, wouldn't it be cool if a bunch of players went out to find out and did a blair witch style film inside GW. That could be pretty cool :smiley:

RilderView
19-03-2006, 00:15
Krytan Witch project?

... ok I'm taking the p*ss, but then I thought ooooh, wouldn't it be cool if a bunch of players went out to find out and did a blair witch style film inside GW. That could be pretty cool :smiley:


ahahahaha that would be fun, like have a group of 8 start out at ToA and go out into the wilderness and pull an all nighter just camping out there, man that would make guild wars history... :laugh: even though i never saw the Blair Witch project though... :undecided:

Ashberry
19-03-2006, 00:40
ahahahaha that would be fun, like have a group of 8 start out at ToA and go out into the wilderness and pull an all nighter just camping out there, man that would make guild wars history... :laugh: even though i never saw the Blair Witch project though... :undecided:

People love making GW video's, it would work so well! :smiley:

Erasculio
19-03-2006, 00:46
ahahahaha that would be fun, like have a group of 8 start out at ToA and go out into the wilderness and pull an all nighter just camping out there, man that would make guild wars history... :laugh:
They would need to be low levels though, to get the feeling of utter fear we have (ok, some people had) in the movie.

"What was that?" - the level 5 speaks

"I think it's one of these level 8 Devourers coming up! OMG we're going to die!"

Erasculio

Ashberry
19-03-2006, 00:54
They would need to be low levels though, to get the feeling of utter fear we have (ok, some people had) in the movie.

"What was that?" - the level 5 speaks

"I think it's one of these level 8 Devourers coming up! OMG we're going to die!"

Erasculio

They'd need a lvl 20 w/mo who 'knows it all' just like in every teen movie there's always one who knows it all, and he/she is always the one who gets killed first :)

Such a shame there's no day/night cycles in GW, would make it even creepier. Guess they'd have to fake it in edit and turn the brightness down heh.

nkuvu
19-03-2006, 01:18
Majesty's Rest is night time in Kryta. No brightness adjustment necessary.

Dzierzy Mierz
19-03-2006, 02:06
Majesty's Rest is night time in Kryta. No brightness adjustment necessary.

except for the strange "spot light trees"....

Barinthus
19-03-2006, 03:24
Also there are dark areas in Kessex peak

Quintus Antonius
19-03-2006, 03:42
This is the Lore Forum, if you wish to discuss making movies, do so in the Community Lounge or Fan Forum.

Are there any other creatures or signs of creatures around, such as Tengu, that have intelligence enough to make something like that?

I agree, the Oakhearts probably couldn't make something that small, even if they were intelligent enough.

Lord Melvin
19-03-2006, 04:29
The only thing I can think of is that it's leftover from when some druids lived there, but it would have had to be there for a very long time.

nkuvu
19-03-2006, 05:23
Are there any other creatures or signs of creatures around, such as Tengu, that have intelligence enough to make something like that?
It's been a while since I've been in Majesty's Rest, but I only remember a few Oakhearts and a lot of undead.

There are, however, a few buildings. As well as a statue of Balthazar (right near where Rotscale likes to roost). So at one point there was enough of a human presence to construct those. The architecture is Krytan, unsurprisingly.

So what I'm thinking is that perhaps it is something that the Shining Blade left behind*. This may have been fairly recent, actually, given that the undead haven't been bothering Kryta for too long (note the D'Alessio Seaboard mission is to warn Confessor Dorian about the newly risen undead army). But I'm wondering if it was used in a Shining Blade ritual to scare some overly superstitious new White Mantle.

Or maybe it was used in a sort of summoning to attract the Oakhearts to the area (still thinking that the Shining Blade did it) to drive off the White Mantle by force. If not drive them off, at least weaken them. It would be a pretty decent approach to summon Oakhearts, and attack the White Mantle while they were busy fighting those. Given that the Shining Blade is seriously outnumbered by the White Mantle, having the Oakhearts fighting the Mantle would be pretty beneficial.

I agree, the Oakhearts probably couldn't make something that small, even if they were intelligent enough.
Of course ignoring what I just said above, I have to wonder about this. Oakhearts are moving, cranky trees. I'd assume that they would be able to move all of their branches, which could easily include very small, dextrous branches that could act as fingers.

Hmm.

* Note that it seems to me that the Shining Blade would be more likely to do a ritual like this (with the bones and feather (that is a feather, right?)) than the White Mantle (who seem to like "showy" magic that appears... for lack of a better word, clean), which is how I made this conclusion.

Serena Corvidae
19-03-2006, 06:17
I thought that Majesty's Rest was where the Krytans buried their Kings and other Royals (don't have a source for that), hence the name Majesty's Rest. Therefore this might suggest that Krytans did visit Majesty's Rest (perhaps they stopped when Rotscale took up residence), however it does not explain the bone construct which is neither a tribute to the Old Gods nor the Mursaat.

Barinthus
19-03-2006, 07:49
Here's a shot of that 'totem' thing from a different angle. I found this in the area outside of Temple of Ages... ah it's called the Black Curtain. This was once a holy site (cannot recall where I got this info from) where bodies were buried in connection to ToA but things got corrupted over time.

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/358/totemundead2iz.th.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=totemundead2iz.jpg)

However I find it doubtful that this was an ancient object due to wood and feather parts which would have decomposed into nothing long time ago due to the humidity of the air (this is a bog so it's definitely humid).

The only intelligent being nearly would be bog skale blighters which are this:
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7979/bogskale2iz.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bogskale2iz.jpg)

Reed Stalkers are nearby but blighters are in the immediate vinicity. There are undead but they are farther.

Also I found this in the bog west of ToA... any thoughts?

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/2742/deadbodybog1bq.th.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadbodybog1bq.jpg)

nkuvu - I doubt that Shining Blade would resort to burying their dead in a bog full of undead and blighters. Their 'headquarters' are much farther deeper into the wilderness.

Barinthus
19-03-2006, 17:05
In the previous posting I mentioned I heard somewhere that the Black Curtain was once a holy grounds - I found the source.

In ToA, speak to Brother Theophilus who said:


This temple is as old as Kryta itself. Even before the tribes were united into a single kingdom, it was known to all that these swamps were sacred, a final resting place for the dead. Grenth was the first god to have a statue here, but the others were erected soon after. Before the coming of the White Mantle, many Krytans would make a pilgrimage to the Temple of the Ages when they reached the adulthood. By presenting themselves to the gods, they hoped to find their true calling.

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7771/brothertheophilusclose7jt.th.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brothertheophilusclose7jt.jpg)

However I do not believe this is related to those totems or even the body. After re-reading the first posting, the OP's totem was found in Majesty's Rest while mine was found in the Black Curtain.

nkuvu
19-03-2006, 17:25
nkuvu - I doubt that Shining Blade would resort to burying their dead in a bog full of undead and blighters. Their 'headquarters' are much farther deeper into the wilderness.
Read again, I never said anything about anyone burying their dead. In truth, I'd forgotten that bit about Majesty's Rest.

I was thinking that perhaps the hanging object was a summons, perhaps, in order to help the Shining Blade drive the White Mantle out of the area (or just help the Shining Blade kill off as many White Mantle as possible). This wouldn't explain the one in the Black Curtain, though.

Although there are Bone Dragons in both Majesty's Rest and the Black Curtain. Hmm.

Quintus Antonius
19-03-2006, 18:05
Also I found this in the bog west of ToA... any thoughts?

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/2742/deadbodybog1bq.th.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadbodybog1bq.jpg)

nkuvu - I doubt that Shining Blade would resort to burying their dead in a bog full of undead and blighters. Their 'headquarters' are much farther deeper into the wilderness.


FUNERAL RITES The swamps serve as the burial grounds for the inhabitants of this area. Their funeral rites involve tying the wrapped bodies of the dead to the mast of a boat and sending them off into the mist... (Art 78)

Once again, the Art book proves invaluble. What we have in this picture is an example of the Krytan funeral tradition, nothing more. Unfortunetly, if you didn't get the book that came with the CE, there would be no way of knowing that. It's sad that ANet didn't include more of their lore in the game...

Dzierzy Mierz
19-03-2006, 18:06
yep, I found mine in Majesty's Rest. If you go to Rotscale and crew, then keep heading to the west, past all of the undead, there is a dark and dreary forest area. No undead, tengu or other "intelligent" life forms. The only life forms there are are Ancient Oakhearts.

Erm, for the sake of science and anthropology, I will go out again and get a screenie of the map, showing exactly where it was, and make sure that I didn't miss any critters in the area, and maybe find some more clues. To be honest, when I started out on the trip yesterday, my goal wasn't to find strange things hanging from trees....it was because my poor mesmer girl was my only char that had never ventured into Majesty's Rest...I figured that she deserved the chance to meet Rotscale! haha

Be back later with more pics. :)

Dzierzy Mierz
19-03-2006, 19:40
Darn, didn't make it back in time to edit my last post....well, I did, but I took too long typing, and ended up missing the window. :(

OK, While photobucket uploads the pics, I will relate my findings:


First of all, I have a message from some henchies....they are disappointed that many people want to take pictures without them. They assure me that they are just as photogenic as the rest of us, and are tired of players doing the "henchie swirl" to get them out of the way to get unobscured photos. As a result, I promised them that I would not swirl them out of my way, as long as they didn't stand DIRECTLY in the way of my object of photography. In other words, swirl as I might, today the hench were not cooperative, and so I gave up, and let them pose. *Wink*


Here is a 2nd pic from another angle of the tree hanging, featuring the backs of the heads of our fearless warrior henchie, followed by a pic of the map showing where it is: (actually, on 2nd thought, since this is going to be a lot of pics, I'll just link to the pics of the maps)

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/Mil-IntSoldiersWIFE/gw862.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/Mil-IntSoldiersWIFE/gw863.jpg

While on my journey, I discovered a 2nd tree hanging... I will just link to the photo of this tree hanging (no henchies volunteered to pose with it), and the map. Of course, there is no need to look at the pic of the tree hanging, as it looks just like the others

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/Mil-IntSoldiersWIFE/gw864.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/Mil-IntSoldiersWIFE/gw865.jpg

On the way, still in Majesty's Rest, I did find this totem (I also had a stern talking to with Dunham on the matter of casting Distortion while photographing....it distorts the view of the object).

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/Mil-IntSoldiersWIFE/gw855.jpg

And here is where it is: http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/Mil-IntSoldiersWIFE/gw856.jpg

I possibly found the humans who left these items (no, no not Alesia and Orian, they just had the need to show for posterity that they were along for the ride):

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/Mil-IntSoldiersWIFE/gw857.jpg

these two collectors, out by the river....all alone....Rotscale and Clan's caretakers? Or just a nice couple who decided to get away from it all and settle in the country?

Right around the corner from them was this little house/ building/ oh some kind of structure, and the perfect chance for a group shot...but alas, our warriors were camera shy...funny that the warriors spent most of the time hiding behind me while our fearless casters wanted to be in front of me.....

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/Mil-IntSoldiersWIFE/gw859.jpg

Also, should be noted that these structures have light sources pointing up from their roofs.....beacons? alien contact system? or just a building that bought the collector's edition? :P

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/Mil-IntSoldiersWIFE/gw860.jpg


And finally, in case anyone was confused by my comments on spot light trees a few posts back, here is one for your viewing enjoyment (incidentally, Reyna has decided that the fact that she isn't in very many GW movies is because her lack of publicizing....so, she wanted a headshot, in the spot light....alas, poor dear forgot that traditionally, headshots are done of the front of the head....oh well)

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/Mil-IntSoldiersWIFE/gw861.jpg


PS it should also be noted that anyone wishing to do a Krytan Witch Project need not worry about too much sunlight....it is nighttime here...more light on the horizon off to the west, so presumably, dusk. :)

Barinthus
19-03-2006, 20:09
Haha funny posting :)

Any way of making those pictures in your link bigger? Otherwise, good work

And Quintus - noooooot fair!!!!!!! I want that book sob sob

Quintus Antonius
19-03-2006, 22:42
And finally, in case anyone was confused by my comments on spot light trees a few posts back, here is one for your viewing enjoyment (incidentally, Reyna has decided that the fact that she isn't in very many GW movies is because her lack of publicizing....so, she wanted a headshot, in the spot light....alas, poor dear forgot that traditionally, headshots are done of the front of the head....oh well)

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/Mil-IntSoldiersWIFE/gw861.jpg



I can explain this. It's a refraction of light through the branches of the trees illuminating dust particles streaming towards the polarized energy source the light is creating.

If you have ever just looked around a room on a sunny day, you can see the same thing, or if you have ever seen the phenomenon known as a sunbeam or moonbeam.

As for the source of light: I'm not completely sure as the picture is not inclusive of the surrounding area. I'd venture to say it's caused by the moon.

I would strongly disagree with anyone who says this is anything less than scientific.



And Quintus - noooooot fair!!!!!!! I want that book sob sob

That's why Quintus is the lore patriarch of these forums =D

Barinthus
19-03-2006, 23:23
That's why Quintus is the lore patriarch of these forums =D

:smile:

I insist, good sir, this very moment go and photocopy this book of yours and mail the orginial to me!

Quintus Antonius
19-03-2006, 23:43
:smile:

I insist, good sir, this very moment go and photocopy this book of yours and mail the orginial to me!

How's about I photocopy my foot and send the original up your butt? :laughing:

Seriously though, I'm sure you can find a copy of the book online, such as eBay or something.

Dzierzy Mierz
20-03-2006, 00:57
that would explain it, had there been a moon. But there is no moon to be seen....unless it is hiding behind clouds....in which case....it would not be shinning through the trees.

Crayak
20-03-2006, 18:30
:yikes: :yikes: :yikes: burned ;p