View Full Version : Canthan interpretations of the gods?
Anyways, I was playing some alliance missions when I looked closer at the pictures at the ressurection shrine.
here they are:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4866/gods9xd.jpg
Upon closer inspection thoose might not be the gods, but rather the human heroes of cantha.
If this is so, who is the green guy in the middle? A necro?
I cant remember the mission name, but there is one where you have to save the souls of the dead heroes of cantha, maybe theese are the pictures of them.
Edit: oh yeah, the res shrine was found at the kurzik side of the saltspray beach.
Sorry if this has been brought up before.
It could be the Canthan followers of the respective Gods (IMO: Lyssa - Grenth - ??? Dwayna?) that you had to fight in Tahnakai temple.
The Stiehl
04-06-2006, 17:08
The man in the center (Necromancer?) has a head dress like those worn by the Redemptors. Or so it appears to my eyes.
Quintus Antonius
04-06-2006, 17:43
Those may be images of the three lesser demigods that are worshipped along side the main pantheon.
Gmr Leon
04-06-2006, 18:01
Those may be images of the three lesser demigods that are worshipped along side the main pantheon.
Are you referring to the Luxons here?
That wouldent make any sense, if it was to be any demigods, it would be the kurzik ones seeing as it was on the kurzik side of the map.
The three demigoddesses Aula, Elora and Ione are worshipped by Luxons only, so that idea is out. I'm sure a Kurzick might even be insulted at the mention of worshipping such deities. :)
However, the manuscripts state that "The Kurzicks practice a particularly devout and pious form of worship tied to the great Kurzick Houses."
Is it possible that these portraits are of champions of some of the houses?
Quintus Antonius
04-06-2006, 20:07
Yes, but look where it is: Saltspray Beach. Is that a primary rez point or a secondary rez point? Also, in my experiences with Alliance Battles, everything is pretty much reflective of the culture who owns the area. So, if it's a Luxon area, the architecture tends to be Luxon, the Kurzicks only capture and utilize formerly Luxon-held points.
So, it could be Luxon, and just be in use by the Kurzicks.
The things is, I've never seen a Ressurection shrine like this in any other Luxon territory. I've always seen the standard statues. The structure just does not look quite Luxon to me.
Then again, all I can figure is what's "not Luxon" as I haven't been to any of the Kurzick territory yet.
Tokugawa
04-06-2006, 21:01
These "Stained Glass" things are in my guild's guild hall also (Isle of Weeping Stone?:huh: )
These "Stained Glass" things are in my guild's guild hall also (Isle of Weeping Stone?:huh: )
Proves my point, because if I remember correctly, this an Echovald-themed guild hall, so it is more likely that the architecture is Kurzick than Luxon. :D
Quintus Antonius
04-06-2006, 23:00
Ah, well it appears my hypothesis is proven incorrect. Good deductive work.
So, now that we have in fact established this as Kurzick, anyone have any ideas as to the origins of those figures?
I think they represent three Canthan Heroes.
Kurzicks Favor Dwayna (House zu Heltzer), Grenth (Durheim), Balthazar (Vasburg), Melandru (Lutgardis) and Lyssa (Brauer) - according to the Prima Guide.
The left image could be KITAH, a Canthan Mesmer Hero of Legend and represented in Tahnakai Temple. Representing Lyssa. She looks very much like Lady Musagi or the Mesmer Trainer Mei Ling.
The middle one looks like NAKU the Necromancer, also represented in Tahnakai Temple. Representing Grenth.
The grim reaper figure looks very much like a follower of Grenth.
The right one could be KAREI the Monk, though I am not sure if this is a female or a male. Karei is a female actually. Representing Dwayna.
For some reason, the right one reminds me of an assassin, and not a monk... though that might just be me. I wonder if we can find the picture of the other heroes.
I think they represent three Canthan Heroes.
Kurzicks Favor Dwayna (House zu Heltzer), Grenth (Durheim), Balthazar (Vasburg), Melandru (Lutgardis) and Lyssa (Brauer) - according to the Prima Guide.
The left image could be KITAH, a Canthan Mesmer Hero of Legend and represented in Tahnakai Temple. Representing Lyssa. She looks very much like Lady Musagi or the Mesmer Trainer Mei Ling.
The middle one looks like NAKU the Necromancer, also represented in Tahnakai Temple. Representing Grenth.
The grim reaper figure looks very much like a follower of Grenth.
The right one could be KAREI the Monk, though I am not sure if this is a female or a male. Karei is a female actually. Representing Dwayna.
Karei is male. If you look at the statue of karei in Tahnnakai temple, it is a male monk, also on the pedestrial with his description:
"For most of his life he tended a small village in northern Cantha, curing ills and setting broken bones."
The ghost of him is a female however, but quite a few of the other heroes also have their gender switched after they die.. oh wells :rolleyes:
The statues are crafted by kurzick artisans (mouse over description of tahnnakai temple) so I believe the kurzick interpretation of such heroes wouldn't differ too much from the statues, Karei looks pretty much like a male monk with faction armor, much unlike the heavy gothic Kurzick styles posed on the pictures. In fact, one of the factions monk armors could've been made to honor the monk hero.
The figures shown on the res shrines could've been kurzick battle general # 67 who died during the kurzick/luxon war at some point in time and the res shrine was erected as memorial..
Sir Jack
05-06-2006, 10:38
There's a clearer picture of the right one in the artbook that came with the CE.
I think there's a pic of the left one as well, not entirely sure though.
I'd post a scan, but I seriously doubt that's allowed.
Djinn Effer
05-06-2006, 11:06
The glass in the Guild Hall has a picture of a Male Warrior wearing Kurzick Armor as well as pictures resembling the ones posted earlier.
(Click to enlarge)
http://positivezero.net/images/weepingstonehallt.jpg (http://positivezero.net/images/weepingstonehall.jpg)
http://positivezero.net/images/weepingstonehall2t.jpg (http://positivezero.net/images/weepingstonehall2.jpg)
I'm not too sure who the figures are, perhaps just Heroes of the Kurzick Houses?
Now that I look at it EVEN CLOSER at it, the green things dont even ressemble humans. More like spirits, or... aliens?
Quintus Antonius
05-06-2006, 17:15
There's a clearer picture of the right one in the artbook that came with the CE.
I think there's a pic of the left one as well, not entirely sure though.
I'd post a scan, but I seriously doubt that's allowed.
You may post a scan. Just make sure to properly cite your source. :smiley:
Sir Jack
06-06-2006, 15:11
You may post a scan. Just make sure to properly cite your source. :smiley:
Well, okay then.
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9355/sc15vt.jpg
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/9765/sc23tj.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8468/sc39ov.jpg
From the GW artbook bought with the CE, woman by Daniel Doccu, Priest by Levi Hopkins
the artbook pics looked like Grenth and Melandru kurzickified o.o
That makes sense, a tribute to Grenth at the res shrine to call back the dead, with Melandru nurturing them back up.
That's what I would think anyway
Djinn Effer
08-06-2006, 04:38
Well, that explains what the pictures are. Redemptors, Warriors and.. Mesmers? I wonder if it actually has any special meaning or is just there to look pretty.
I would say, just to look pretty xD
That is pretty much the redemptor in the 2nd picture, and in the first it cant be anything else but a female kurzik warrior, like the one you can get at the elite warrior shrines in alliance battles. In my opinion atleast.
Serena Corvidae
08-06-2006, 07:06
I thought that picture was concept art for Helene, one of the envoys... could be wrong though
Sir Jack
08-06-2006, 11:21
I thought that picture was concept art for Helene, one of the envoys... could be wrong though
I don't think so, the artwork for the Envoys is several pages before that (at p23, woman on p83).
Although the second pic is on the same page as Redemptor artwork
lamlamlam
08-06-2006, 14:45
lamlamlam, I cant see your pictures.
Um...looks like the site I posted it in is down for maintance
Looks like I have to try imageshack
HzH:
http://img452.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw3930km.jpg
Saint A's Shrine:
http://img452.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw3947sn.jpg
Armory:
http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw3976td.jpg
Mod, please feel free to delete previous post.
Thx a lot.
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