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Mularc Templare
20-09-2006, 07:05
Lol...I haven't posted a new thread in so long, I almost feel as if I don't have a right too :P

Anyway, on topic.

I was wondering whether anyone has actually seen the god's statues with all their full adornments in either Tryia (Continent) or Catha. The small peice missing from the Tyrian statues are Balth's Dogs of War, but in Catha, the "unique Cathan flair" to the statues is never actually shown (eg, Grenth is still shown with worshippers clamouring towards his body, whereas the manuscript defines him as having dead piled at his feet looking away from the god.)

If this doesn't belong here, feel free to move it.

Mularc

lavenbb
20-09-2006, 08:32
This is one thing that puzzled me for awhile as well. It also seems like melandru's lower body is not encased in quartz in Cantha..

maleki
20-09-2006, 08:35
I dont think it is so much of a thing of extreme lore. But I think it is just how each culture saw these gods. Maybe it would be disgraceful in cantha for their dead to be clawing at grenth.

Nazpharoz
20-09-2006, 14:07
I dont think it is so much of a thing of extreme lore. But I think it is just how each culture saw these gods. Maybe it would be disgraceful in cantha for their dead to be clawing at grenth.

you can say it also otherwhise.

The might off Grenth is a might not to look at.
Or is it that ugly that all turned away from him... :laughing:

Ranger Nietzsche
21-09-2006, 00:17
he's saying teh statues should be different in cantha than in tyria...but that they're not

Mularc Templare
21-09-2006, 04:58
Yes, it was actually a question of why the models don't reflect the Lore, or whether I've just got the Lore of them wrong, or of course, if they are there I just haven't seen them.

Mularc

Ivan Drago
21-09-2006, 11:41
Mularc, the only parts where you really see Canthan versions of the gods is in the Trailer of Shiro's Betrayal, the murals in the Harvest temple were very interesting.

Besides that you are right, the strategy guide and other things state details that are actually not shown on the usual god statues.

Quintus Antonius
21-09-2006, 13:28
I once theorized that the statues are mass-produced by one company. If this is true, as Cantha modernized (think Asia around the late 18th century), they adopted these mass-production statues to replace the statues that were removed as Kaineng expanded.

Nazpharoz
21-09-2006, 13:35
hmmm...

Quintus, i think they introduced them also to tyria... :grin:

Quintus Antonius
21-09-2006, 13:51
Yes, Tyria is where they'd first have been introduced.

My modern world comparison is the Crucifix of Christ. Even though it is highly inaccurate (He couldn't have hung from the wrists without support, and the Bible says He was beaten beyond recognition), it is still the most adopted form of Catholic and Christian imagery of the Passion. When Christianity was spreading to places like China, they had pictures of an Asian Jesus hanging on a cross, instead of a Arabic Christ, like history suggests. But more or less, the same image has been adopted by Christianity everywhere.

So, it isn't so unlikely that the statues are all the same. Someone wants a statue, so they call up Statues-R-Us says, "Hey, gimme a gold plated Balth" and it's shipped out.

To those who says "nah, that kind of corporation isn't likely in Tyria", consider the Xunlai Agents, and also the fact that the game has a dynamic intertwined in-game economy. I don't think it is too farfetched.

Kailden Jera
21-09-2006, 14:14
I could really buy the story of statues-r-us delivering statues to every needy city or temple. Very plausible.

Quintus Antonius
21-09-2006, 16:02
I truly believe that all the statues are the same because it would be very, very time consuming and difficult to make each statue in each location different, as if they had been carved or commissioned seperately.

However, looking at this through the lens of in-gaminess, you have to admit, the company or person making these statues is really making a killing off of them, because it is obvious there is only one source of statues, and they probably aren't free.

Nazpharoz
22-09-2006, 00:29
statues-r-us must made millions off credits for making all thus statues and thus who shipped must have made nice money also... :huh:

hmmmm.... would be nice to join them aswell. :grin:

Quitus, still don't get 1 thing.
Statues-r-us is a Canthan company, like you said, they will likely first be introdused in Cantha itself. Throwing money away for first shipment for a simple introdusion half across the world isn't that usefull when you still didn't got a contract for more.

I think Xunlai Agents helped with the shipments and gained money from that also.

And i like 1 thing about thus Statues-r-us statues. when the gods are not looking at you the statue is kinda ruined and if they are looking they are very beautyfull... it must be (like you said) some kinda Canthan technology. :shocked:

Kalidri
22-09-2006, 03:04
Or its the Elonians supplying them. We can wait and see if the statues are different there...

Quintus Antonius
22-09-2006, 03:11
I doubt it was the Elonians, because the Elonians just opened trade with Cantha. Odds are, whoever is making the statues is from Tyria or Cantha.

shadowhand
24-09-2006, 02:47
The Balthazar statues in Elona have flaming eyes* and are almost completely black.

Gives them a very imposing look.

I didn't pay much attention to the other gods' statues, but I'm pretty sure that they're not the same as in Cantha or Tyria.


* when your continent has favour.

Laibeus Lord
24-09-2006, 02:57
Yah, wondering the same thing. THe Manuscripts doesn't fit with the statues you found in Cantha in-game :p