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yoyoyouyo
04-12-2006, 02:57
Im making this to show the qualities of both sides of the faction.Im gunna make it short and sweet!
Kurzick-Kurzicks have great teamwork and stay together all the time.This gives them the upper hand in combat and insures them to win most of the time, but one flaw in this plan results in a beatdown from the Luxons.Kurzick armor is also a big up for them, it just looks plain awesome.
Luxon-Luxons usually lose their battles at Grenz Fronteir but anywhere else they own the Kurzicks. But it seems like the Alliance Battles are ALWAYS at Grenz, therefore making the Luxons win for only a short amount of time when Grenz is not the one being used.By losing so much the luxons learn new builds and strategies on the battlefeild.
Keep in mind im just stating my thoughts and im not trying to make enemies, I am infact, Luxon, myself.And I want to stop bad sportsmanship between our two factions. At the beginning of every single Alliance Battle youll always hear me yell Good luck Kurzicks!. And Some of the time I get a big shut up Suxon yelled back at me or something, it makes me angry that I try to be a good sport and noone appreciates it, anyway, please state your thoughts on this.
yoyoyouyo
04-12-2006, 03:06
I thought more people would care about sportsmanship in AB...:cry:
Domina Spellbinder
05-12-2006, 12:50
If I were to base my observations on yesterday I would be writing something completely different. 6 consecutives on Eternan Keys (as Kurzick), the map I always thought was the most biased to the Luxons.
The kurzick and luxon side are like sport teams...you could get good sportsmanship but then again that would be like asking good sportsmanship between Washington Redskins and Dallas Cowboys...fans....
The Pointless
07-12-2006, 21:49
Sportsmanship? In AB? Hah! All hope of that is, sadly, lost.
At least one team on either side in AB will have some retard who think hurling abuse in local, and the best thing to do should be just to say "gg" at the end of the fight and let the idiots continue the fight verbally. :sad:
I always thought the Luxons moved in a mob and the Kurzicks wandered around aimlessly and got picked off.
boles roor
21-12-2006, 23:02
What I often notice, is that kurzicks have to wait alot longer than luxons because of the minorty of luxons in AB. This allows kurzicks to create better teams with monks. On the luxon side it is more like as fast as possible 4 man teams where the primary proffession doesn't matter.
When the battle starts it starts most of the time 4 against 4. The kurzicks win most of the time fighting these fights. However, most luxons know more about solocapping and allow them to win a couple of times just by a small ammount of people(3 or 4) working together while the 3 4man kurzick groups try to find and fight the larger(most of the time) dumber luxon groups.
Eventually it depends ofcourse on the experience of the individual player in alliance battles.
retromullet
24-12-2006, 01:01
I stopped ABing for awhile, mostly because I got sick of people being bad sportsmen. It really gets old being called lame names multiple times that are supposed to sound offensive, when in reality, they are just plain annoying.
I stopped ABing for awhile, mostly because I got sick of people being bad sportsmen. It really gets old being called lame names multiple times that are supposed to sound offensive, when in reality, they are just plain annoying.
That's a bit silly since you can always turn off local chat.
:)
KicknDave
16-01-2007, 08:09
Yeah I've lost the last 7-8 battles to Luxons on Luxon area maps. I don't what's up, but to me seems Kurzicks only win on Kurzick land and Luxon on Luxon. Every game, Luxons mobbed and for some reason every kurzick went rambo/007/blah with no success. I was impressed at the stupidity of all 8 games lol.
retromullet
16-01-2007, 16:29
That's a bit silly since you can always turn off local chat.
:)
Thats not really the point. I dont feel like promoting something that is so ridiculous. Call it silly, but id rather have no affiliation.
jouninassasin
06-02-2007, 01:21
This is a bit silly. No side is better than the other, its not the naturality of the sides being better, but the peaple who partake in it. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but there are actually a few noobs during Alliance Battles. I don't get why theres such a feud of trash talking when its the weak, misguided peaple that die a whole lot.
Goldfish God
06-02-2007, 02:22
I was mucking about with a Steady Stance + Desperate Blow axe warrior as Luxon (in the Luxon fort map), and ended up effectively dueling a KD-spike chain Assassin.
First time he beat me with a close win. 2nd time I was running through the fort to repair gates and he followed me on my way out, I stopped 'cause I thought I might be able to handle him instead of having to fight him and a ranger-shrine. I beat him just barely and got a stream of insults about how I'd only won because I'd been running for 10 minutes (which I pointed out was stupid since it doesn't take 10 mins to go from inside the fort to outside the gate). Then he turned up again before I could cap the shrine, so I gave him another rematch and just waited for him to reach me. I beat him a 2nd time, again a bare win, again I apparently won 'cause I had run away (I can run while stationary apparently). After that I had to spam Heal sig to avoid dying, while he taunted me that I had to keep healing (not sure why I'd want to die if I could avoid it).
The 4th time of him running to duel me again, I just gave up on the idea and ran over to help cap the shrine which another group of Luxons was dealing with and he ran away. For the rest of the match he kept calling me a runner.
After the match he whispered me about how noob I was and how Steady Stance was noob (he ignored me after I told him it'd helped Vs his HotOx, and that his build was just as cookie cutter as mine).
That's only a single player, personally just a rarity. I've played for the Kurzick's and had similar experiences, I've had other Luxons (while as Luxon) ignore me for not mobbing and for not /resigning when told to.
The general game banter about Suxons or Kursucks is just game banter. Sometimes you get people who are playing it up a bit, but most of it is exactly the same irrelevant of what side you play on or your success rate.
Son of the hood
08-02-2007, 07:35
Taunting and abusing and ridicule is part of any conflict between two sides and TBH I find it quite amusing, although I never take part.
In real life conflicts such as WW1 in the trench warfare you didnt get the English or Germans shouting out to each other across no mans land.." HAVE FUN "
Sharn mes
08-02-2007, 09:58
The ignore list is good place to put annoying players...
Suddenly they shut up!!!!
:)
Goldfish God
08-02-2007, 14:09
In real life conflicts such as WW1 in the trench warfare you didnt get the English or Germans shouting out to each other across no mans land.." HAVE FUN "
They didn't tend to shout "LOL NOOB!!1" either, though shouting in general would probably mean revealing their location and getting shot by the other side. :shocked:
Though there was that Christmas football match. :laugh:
fire magic wins
08-02-2007, 17:31
ah how i love to play against guys that think that they are good and funny because they say: shut up suxon when i say gl and hf kurzicks..:smiley:
the most fun way to shut them up is just to say: ok so im a suxon..well you want a 1 on 1 and the loser is the noob...this works every time for me and i never lost :grin: then after that they always say nice fight luxon and not suxon :smiley: few people that were not like this and they were french...they dont understand english...:undecided:
The Pointless
08-02-2007, 18:48
The ignore list is good place to put annoying players...
Suddenly they shut up!!!!
:)
Major, major flaw with that: You're limited by 10 imbeciles. :angry:
Son of the hood
09-02-2007, 07:13
They didn't tend to shout "LOL NOOB!!1" either
:laugh:
No your right.....they probably shouted worse things than NOOB, nevertheless they did shout.
Jin Huey
09-02-2007, 08:33
I think "CHARGE!" is the only appropriate and short to shout during WW1 trench warfare. It gives them adrenaline rush on the battlefield, and as far as I know, shouting "NOOBZ!!!! LOLZ!!!" doesn't do much since you're the one who's charging towards the enemies' guns. But all the shouts really do nothing much until the scream of the tanks' engine came about.
Sharn mes
09-02-2007, 10:08
Major, major flaw with that: You're limited by 10 imbeciles. :angry:
Crap! I forgot about that...
Damn it you have to prioritize the morons.... sigh
Lady Jade
09-02-2007, 14:16
There's three things I hate about ab... being chased down by one luxon wammo and his five buddies because he's annoyed you interrupted him repeatedly (and I literally mean all over for five minutes). Experiencing lag spikes which causes the game to freeze and eventually you discover you've been taken out in a wave of violence and destruction. And finally, Luxon mobs.
Son of the hood
09-02-2007, 16:43
LOL us Luxons have the same problems.
Goldfish God
09-02-2007, 22:53
I've never taken to using the ignore list, simply because I don't often actually see specific people on a regular basis otside of guildies.
fire magic wins
12-02-2007, 21:27
huh? luxons mob? since when...i always see the kurzicks mob...weird..
The Pointless
12-02-2007, 21:49
huh? luxons mob? since when...i always see the kurzicks mob...weird..
The Luxons are always mobbing when I fight alongside dunce teams. And I'm Luxon myself.
huh? luxons mob? since when...i always see the kurzicks mob...weird..
kurzick mob my @$$. I see more luxons mob than kurz. As i am a kurzick.
Goldfish God
13-02-2007, 00:47
kurzick mob my @$$. I see more luxons mob than kurz. As i am a kurzick.
As you are Kurzick you pay attention to Luxon mobs (either to avoid, or to distract them). As a Kurzick, when Kurzick mob, you are either part of it, or you can never find any of your allies (since they're all mobbed up on the other side of the map).
You take notice of visible overwhelming threats, but not unseen bad tactics of your allies.
LastLegacy
13-02-2007, 19:13
What I have noticed is that both teams have strengths and weaknesses at specific maps and what not. And not one is more segnifigant than the other. I am a Kurzick and I will say this Kurzicks win becouse we dont mob as much as the Luxons and when we do we ussually end up loosing. The Kuricks have less strategy and more just go out and do it style. Also I have noticed that the Kurzicks are made up of much younger players and the Kurzicks ussually do better from about 6 A.M to about 4 P.M.
The Luxons on the other hand have much more strategy and planning behind their movements but are much slower at things such as getting through battles and what-not. Also Luxons seem to mob alot but also seem to be quite good at it, still being able to while mobbing. The Luxon seem to be an older range of players and seem to win more from around 4 P.M to 6 A.M or so.
So I hope this helped and settle some arguments that have been going on.
What I have noticed is that both teams have strengths and weaknesses at specific maps and what not. And not one is more segnifigant than the other. I am a Kurzick and I will say this Kurzicks win becouse we dont mob as much as the Luxons and when we do we ussually end up loosing. The Kuricks have less strategy and more just go out and do it style. Also I have noticed that the Kurzicks are made up of much younger players and the Kurzicks ussually do better from about 6 A.M to about 4 P.M.
The Luxons on the other hand have much more strategy and planning behind their movements but are much slower at things such as getting through battles and what-not. Also Luxons seem to mob alot but also seem to be quite good at it, still being able to while mobbing. The Luxon seem to be an older range of players and seem to win more from around 4 P.M to 6 A.M or so.
So I hope this helped and settle some arguments that have been going on.
Nice job on the timing. Whenever I make a plan for my team, It usually ends up as: Plan A|4/4/4 or Plan B|kill
Sharn mes
14-02-2007, 08:09
Why do ppl believe it has something to do with what side your playing??? It doesnt...Both sides are comprised of random players (except when a guild decides to create teams...) of different skill levels and classes....
mmorpg man
10-03-2007, 16:13
very true but i have seen this trend when I play ab. the kuzicks try to cap all 7 shrines and have a quick victory by splitting up and going in their separate teams. the luxons prefer to go around in a huge mob and take the long game option by just going around the shrines all together.
Minionman
10-03-2007, 17:03
There is probably some slightly different appeal to different types of people for Kurzick vs. Luxon. Even if small, the different types of people involed will effect battle tactics somewhat.
The Pointless
11-03-2007, 03:24
very true but i have seen this trend when I play ab. the kuzicks try to cap all 7 shrines and have a quick victory by splitting up and going in their separate teams. the luxons prefer to go around in a huge mob and take the long game option by just going around the shrines all together.
As a Luxon, I've seen the opposite. When the teams listen, the quick victory goes to us for splitting up into our separate teams and capping, while the Kurzicks opt to "zerg".
Of course a lot of the time I see pretty much was you described as well. The Kurzicks aren't the only ones with complete dunces in their teams. :huh:
mmorpg man
14-03-2007, 21:40
the worst r the sins that think they can tank against NPCs at the elite warrior/elementist shrine with no backup whatsoever. this really pisses me off when they do this
The Pointless
14-03-2007, 22:19
the worst r the sins that think they can tank against NPCs at the elite warrior/elementist shrine with no backup whatsoever. this really pisses me off when they do this
...
Assassin is one of the most difficult professions in the game. One of the reasons I shelved my PvE one.
I'm stupid. So sue me. Actually... don't. :sealed:
Kayleen Ajzurion
15-03-2007, 22:04
I've been doing a lot of AB recently and I must say I'm honestly kind of surprised at the posts in this thread. I've played both Kurzick and Luxon side before and to be quite honest, I don't notice the major differences you guys seem to. The "Luxons stick in mobs to attack people" and "Kurzicks are better organized and split up" haven't really struck me as a natural phenomenon.
I don't know if it's because I'm dense or something but I've seen Kurzicks mob a lot and Luxons split up too. As a Luxon, I've seen a lot of balanced teams with monks and I've had quickly made groups on the Kurzick side.
So I don't know where these conceptions came from since being Kurzick or Luxon doesn't affect my way of PvPing so I don't see why some qualities the Kurzicks would have and others the Luxons. After all, the Factions are made up of mainly players and they're the ones who determine what happens so unless I'm missing something and all the same kind of people joined the same Faction, Idk why we're separating both of them in their style of play.
Kay
mmorpg man
15-03-2007, 22:18
you've got a point there. however I stand by what I have said. when I enter an ab game as a kurzick all the team leaders are arguing about who should go to which portal. you get messages like "my team to the left" and then something like "my team is at left, go in the middle". its crazy but i kind of like it. idk if the luxons do the same
The Pointless
15-03-2007, 22:40
you get messages like "my team to the left" and then something like "my team is at left, go in the middle". its crazy but i kind of like it. idk if the luxons do the same
Yes. Yes they do. You can throw in "dont tell me wot 2 do noob" as well. :undecided:
mmorpg man
16-03-2007, 13:39
we don't get that kind of message so much. what really pisses me off is at the end of a game the winning side is always like "you got owned" and stuff like this. I hate it
Once, I did a four men assassin team. It was great! Calling targets and teleporting next point to another, but we got separated too much because we had no healer so we died one after another.
just got back from a AB match and thihs happend me
(we just won by 30 points)
ME:good game kurrziks
Kurzzick idiot: what are you ***
ME: ur clever arnt u ?
The Pointless
08-04-2007, 22:36
just got back from a AB match and thihs happend me
(we just won by 30 points)
ME:good game kurrziks
Kurzzick idiot: what are you ***
ME: ur clever arnt u ?
Not quite as funny as the tool that screamed "LUXON LOOBS" across Local. :laugh:
Keep in mind im just stating my thoughts and im not trying to make enemies, I am infact, Luxon, myself.And I want to stop bad sportsmanship between our two factions. At the beginning of every single Alliance Battle youll always hear me yell Good luck Kurzicks!. And Some of the time I get a big shut up Suxon yelled back at me or something, it makes me angry that I try to be a good sport and noone appreciates it, anyway, please state your thoughts on this.
I'd keep on yelling "good luck" to the opposing team all the time if I were you. Sportsmanship is something that I believe is important to have so you don't make yourself look like a jerk. I don't, however, think you should make all your team members do the same. Many feel very strongly about not having it since many see Alliance battles as solely competitive and just want to beat down the opposing team and make them feel like dirt. I would say it for your own personal feelings. If your team doesn't like that, they can either get over it or you can leave.
BobbyEwing
13-04-2007, 16:33
They didn't tend to shout "LOL NOOB!!1" either, though shouting in general would probably mean revealing their location and getting shot by the other side. :shocked:
Though there was that Christmas football match. :laugh:
Actually, beeing that a the trench war was quite static both sides knew pretty much dead on where the enemy where. And shouting insults or propaganda was quite common, even though I do agree that they probably didn't shout "NOOB"....
perverted hermit
09-01-2008, 02:27
Im making this to show the qualities of both sides of the faction.Im gunna make it short and sweet!
Kurzick-Kurzicks have great teamwork and stay together all the time.This gives them the upper hand in combat and insures them to win most of the time, but one flaw in this plan results in a beatdown from the Luxons.Kurzick armor is also a big up for them, it just looks plain awesome.
Luxon-Luxons usually lose their battles at Grenz Fronteir but anywhere else they own the Kurzicks. But it seems like the Alliance Battles are ALWAYS at Grenz, therefore making the Luxons win for only a short amount of time when Grenz is not the one being used.By losing so much the luxons learn new builds and strategies on the battlefeild.
Keep in mind im just stating my thoughts and im not trying to make enemies, I am infact, Luxon, myself.And I want to stop bad sportsmanship between our two factions. At the beginning of every single Alliance Battle youll always hear me yell Good luck Kurzicks!. And Some of the time I get a big shut up Suxon yelled back at me or something, it makes me angry that I try to be a good sport and noone appreciates it, anyway, please state your thoughts on this.
i don't think you can really put a label on how the luxons and the kurzicks work in ABs. different people fight every time, new or experienced players, meaning organisation and strategy are likely to differ between teams of either faction. some people choose to join either the luxons or the kurzicks simply because the luxons have rather attractive looking seige turtles or the kurzicks have sexi armour. most do not join a faction for a strategic reason (i know i didn't. SEIGE TURTLES FTW!!). as for grenz, i seem to win their almost as much as i do in etnaran. (being luxon) sometimes i'll have a terrible period of fights, and the next minute i'll have a 4 win streak in the ancestral lands. if the kurzicks and luxons were so fixed in how they work. i probably wouldn't have such variation in my success in ABs
the ettins kiss
09-01-2008, 15:24
I wanna be a thread necromancer too!
For the record though, I am already quite happy if kids dont use the Kz vs Lx thing to behave like litlle rascists. Although team chat is not the nicest channel either in AB when you are loosing.
I had a larf the other day (as a Luxon) when two Kurzicks were flaming each other in the local chat of a Saltspray match. The one guy (a Dervish, big surprise) had been boasting how no one could kill him. He kept yelling things like "keep tryin 2 kill me, luxon noobs!" etc. Eventually his teammate yammered at him and great comedy ensued.
Anyway, we came back and won something like 475-500. Good times.
shardfenix
09-01-2008, 20:01
Kurzick-Kurzicks have great teamwork and stay together all the time.This gives them the upper hand in combat and insures them to win most of the time, but one flaw in this plan results in a beatdown from the Luxons.Kurzick armor is also a big up for them, it just looks plain awesome.
Luxon-Luxons usually lose their battles at Grenz Fronteir but anywhere else they own the Kurzicks. But it seems like the Alliance Battles are ALWAYS at Grenz, therefore making the Luxons win for only a short amount of time when Grenz is not the one being used.By losing so much the luxons learn new builds and strategies on the battlefeild.
Umm...you do realize that in alliance battles, every fighter is a HUMAN, right? You're basically saying "random selections of humans will always act like this"
No offense, but this topic is stupid. It was just like when the scribe tried to compare the two. You cannot make factual comparisons about things that are random every time.
No offense, but this topic is stupid. It was just like when the scribe tried to compare the two. You cannot make factual comparisons about things that are random every time.
That's why we should stick to making fun of their NPCs. Silly Emos. :grin:
Silly Emos. :grin:
WXD
QUESTION! :O
I'm Kurzick (not by choice, I joined a guild before I had factions or even knew what it was), and am thinking about leaving my guild and possibly making a Luxon one. When I make a guild, do you automatically choose an alliance? Or do I have to pay the 10k faction? Could I join a Luxon alliance and go to another guild's hall and do AB? Thank joo.
WXD
QUESTION! :O
I'm Kurzick (not by choice, I joined a guild before I had factions or even knew what it was), and am thinking about leaving my guild and possibly making a Luxon one. When I make a guild, do you automatically choose an alliance? Or do I have to pay the 10k faction? Could I join a Luxon alliance and go to another guild's hall and do AB? Thank joo.
Or if you're lucky like me, one of your Alliance folks will use his second account to create a luxon guild soley for the sake of guest invites. :wink:
Or if you're lucky like me, one of your Alliance folks will use his second account to create a luxon guild soley for the sake of guest invites. :wink:
Lol..I think l'll just join my friend's guild thats Lux.
If I turn in my Kurzick faction, will I be able to get Luxon service? Like ... to get armor ... elite Luxon armor. >:B
Zelphor Cholera
16-02-2008, 02:07
Grenz is biased towards luxons?sure thats what wiki says,but whenever i play at grenz we own ,like own as in 500-70 half the matches. of course i dont play with pug idiots,and we have a lil trick we use at grenz where we shadowstep behind the base defender,and have a team cap the rez shrine so we can pick off the rezzing kurzicks.[AyB] ftw!
Grenz is biased towards luxons?sure thats what wiki says,but whenever i play at grenz we own ,like own as in 500-70 half the matches. of course i dont play with pug idiots,and we have a lil trick we use at grenz where we shadowstep behind the base defender,and have a team cap the rez shrine so we can pick off the rezzing kurzicks.[AyB] ftw!
So you win by cheating? How awesome for you! Last time someone pulled that stunt, we just capped all the shrines on the map and won anyway ^_^
P.S. Grenz is biased toward the Kurzicks, not the Luxons. You're thinking of Etnaran Keys.
P.P.S. You can't grief anymore anyway, because they added two extra Base Defenders.
At the beginning of every single Alliance Battle youll always hear me yell Good luck Kurzicks!. And Some of the time I get a big shut up Suxon yelled back at me or something, it makes me angry that I try to be a good sport and noone appreciates it, anyway, please state your thoughts on this.
First of all, yeh tha is pretty harsh. Second of all, that is really what ab is about and is why many people do it. Making the other the team look foolish is fun but not in thats way. I personally was once being attacked by a wounding strike derv that wasn't very good, so everytime he attacked, i would heal and then taunt. After the match he whispered me and we had a good laugh about it. That's good sportsmanship, gamesmanship, whatever you call it.
A bit of friendly banther is alright, but there always those who take it too far.
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