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Moonfelar
08-06-2009, 03:14
The large fountian in Lions Arch is VERY similar to the fountian in the Koddash Bazzer. Did the same people make both fountians? If so what is the signifigince of these fountians and are there names known?

Barinthus
08-06-2009, 03:18
Care to post pictures so we can compare? Because off my head they seem different to me.

Moonfelar
08-06-2009, 03:26
well i cant post a pic becuase im to nooby to know how, but they both have staircasses leading up to 4 towers with water pouring out of them and 1 large tower were the water comes from.

the fountian in the Koddas Bazzer is slightly smaler then the one in lions arch.

Konig Des Todes
08-06-2009, 04:05
The fountains are similar, true. In fact, they almost share the same model. If I recall correctly, it was said somewhere that Vabbi has taken influences of other locations or something like that. I.e., the vabbian fountain is a copy of the LA one.

Gmr Leon
08-06-2009, 04:30
They are copies. I always assumed that they were built by Krytan architects that the Merchant Princes had hired.

Moonfelar
08-06-2009, 19:06
ohh...i hadnt thought that there was such free travel betwen Tyria and Elona. i thought that the Tyrians only came over to Elona because of Abbadon and the Demons that threatened to destroy everything

Alaris
08-06-2009, 19:11
In fact, Tyria and Elona are connected geographically, they are part of the same continent. In fact, there is a way to literally walk from Tyria to Elona, both endgames are connected.

Gmr Leon
08-06-2009, 20:10
And to add to that, after the events we partake in Cantha and Elona, I would daresay that the human-inhabited regions of Tyria are closer in relations than they've been in centuries.

Konig Des Todes
08-06-2009, 22:31
But the fountains had to be transported before the events of Nightfall, Mr. Leon. So that point is pointless in this thread - although true.

Gmr Leon
08-06-2009, 23:02
Transported? What's to say they weren't built there by Krytan architects brought there by the Merchant Princes' coin? And it's not impossible they were built there years prior to Nightfall. Let's not forget the Ascalonians in the Desolation, after all.

Not to mention, we have no idea how old the fountain in Lion's Arch is or how old those fountains found in Kodash Bazaar or Resplendent Makuun are. Besides that..Going back to the transportation thing..Wouldn't a fountain need to be built where it's going to be built so it can make use of existing aqueducts or water sources?

Arkhan The Black
09-06-2009, 00:26
Reminds me awfully a lot of the fountain in Divinity Coast that you have to take a bath in to be able to transport that eye thingy.

Konig Des Todes
09-06-2009, 18:54
Er, I meant that the concept was transported, i.e., they were built and moved or the blue prints were moved, or the builders themselves.

And I wasn't saying it wasn't impossible they were build there years prior to Nightfall, I was saying it had to be built prior to Nightfall as you said:
after the events we partake in Cantha and Elona,which would mean that the architects went there during the events of Nightfall. :P

BrettM
09-06-2009, 21:01
How do we know the influence wasn't the other way around? There are both fountains and lion statues in Bokka's palace. Perhaps it was an Elonian architect who was brought to Kryta to build LA, and he designed both the fountains and statues there according to Vabbian styles. After all, lions are native to Elona, not Kryta. It would seem strange to import a Krytan to build such things in Vabbi, but not so strange to import an Elonian to build such things in Kryta.

Barinthus
09-06-2009, 21:07
In fact, Tyria and Elona are connected geographically, they are part of the same continent. In fact, there is a way to literally walk from Tyria to Elona, both endgames are connected.

But IIRC the Desolation with its poisonous sufurous wastes are in the way. So it'd have to be by ships.

Gmr Leon
09-06-2009, 22:47
Er, I meant that the concept was transported, i.e., they were built and moved or the blue prints were moved, or the builders themselves.

And I wasn't saying it wasn't impossible they were build there years prior to Nightfall, I was saying it had to be built prior to Nightfall as you said:
after the events we partake in Cantha and Elona,which would mean that the architects went there during the events of Nightfall. :P

...That still doesn't really explain, at least in regards to built and moved, why they would build it in their homeland and then ship it. Convenient, perhaps, but if it can't work into the existing aqueducts, then they'd have a bit of an issue. It would simply be easier to have them go there and build it, rather than having a hole sitting in the ground with the aqueducts blocked up waiting to place the fountain there, as far as I'm concerned. Especially considering how valuable water should or would be in Elona.

After rereading the last part of your post, how on Tyria did you extrapolate that I was saying the fountains were built during the events of Nightfall? Whenever I said after the events we partake in I had intended it to convey after finishing the Nightfall campaign. :huh:

Edit: Blargh. My brain does not compute temporal occurrences well, as I don't perceive time in the normal manner of continually progressing forward. I see what you were trying to say now. Still, prior to all the wars and disasters that led to Elona, Cantha, and Tyria's relations dissolving they were likely closer than they had been whenever we began in Prophecies. That should work, to some extent.

Bloody time..Always going forward to Tyrian specimens.


How do we know the influence wasn't the other way around? There are both fountains and lion statues in Bokka's palace. Perhaps it was an Elonian architect who was brought to Kryta to build LA, and he designed both the fountains and statues there according to Vabbian styles. After all, lions are native to Elona, not Kryta. It would seem strange to import a Krytan to build such things in Vabbi, but not so strange to import an Elonian to build such things in Kryta.

That's actually a very good point. However, we don't have any dates to tell us which was built first, Lion's Arch, or Kodash Bazaar, or Resplendent Makuun. Unless, they're lying about somewhere..