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Sylvari engineer main seems likely for me. Because a tech plant is too weird to pass.
i do wonder, will they make winter a part of the cycle of the sylvari?
it would IMO be the best part of the sylvari, one season you see leaves turn brown red and the other you see bald twigs and gushing wind.
I do think they have seasons represented in skin tones and armor art, but I think they elected to not make it a personality choice, but rather to leave that choice open to players throughout the game. Kinda like we can wear armor that's fur-lined or armor that is more bikini-like.
i do wonder, will they make winter a part of the cycle of the sylvari?
it would IMO be the best part of the sylvari, one season you see leaves turn brown red and the other you see bald twigs and gushing wind.
You mean actually keeping track of seasons in-game and changing players' skin tones to match? Won't happen. Sylvari seasons are linked to what time of day they were awoken, and according to the blog articles you choose that kind of stuff like anything else about your character's appearance at creation.
The Sylvari live in the jungle, remember - if the Maguuma is anything like real-world jungles, there is no visual difference depending on the season. Sure, there's a rainy season and a dry season, but actual spring-summer-fall-winter cycles mainly matter when you're far enough north or south that there's a serious distinction - I live in a not-quite-tropical climate, and the difference between winter and summer, rainy/dry season cycle aside, is about ten degrees. The plants certainly don't change.
i was talking about world changes, please refrain from assuming things for ones -_-
Again, I consider it highly, highly unlikely. The sylvari live in a rain forest, presumably near the world's equator. Rain forests don't have visual seasonal cycles like temperate forests do. Heck, of the starting zones we've seen, I think the Norn and unpaved parts of the Charr areas are the only ones that might conceivably have seasonal changes, and I highly doubt Arenanet would do that, not to mention it could be jarring for players who live in the southern hemisphere.
I can see seasonal changes changing at a considerably faster pace than once a year. The day & night cycle is considerably faster than 24h.
Again, I consider it highly, highly unlikely. The sylvari live in a rain forest, presumably near the world's equator. Rain forests don't have visual seasonal cycles like temperate forests do. Heck, of the starting zones we've seen, I think the Norn and unpaved parts of the Charr areas are the only ones that might conceivably have seasonal changes, and I highly doubt Arenanet would do that, not to mention it could be jarring for players who live in the southern hemisphere.
there are two facts you missed.
1.) the world of GW doesn't have a equator, if it did that siverpeak would only be at the north and south part of the GW world.
2.) where norn live is always snowy, if things began to meld you would see a city under water.
there are two facts you missed.
1.) the world of GW doesn't have a equator, if it did that siverpeak would only be at the north and south part of the GW world.
Uh, GW takes place on a planet, and planets have equators. And there certainly are equatorial mountain ranges, with snow even, in real life.
2.) where norn live is always snowy, if things began to meld you would see a city under water.
Northern Canada doesn't flood in the summer. Neither do Greenland, Iceland, Russia, or other north-temperate and sub-arctic regions.
Please learn how climates and seasons work in real life, please, if you want to talk about applying seasons to a game.
you would see a city under water.
Good thing we can swim/dive in GW2!
Scutilla
16-08-2011, 02:59
Loving the sylvari changes. Still won't replace asura as my target main though- hopefully their week will come soon since they're going to be playable at the demo.
1.) the world of GW doesn't have a equator, if it did that siverpeak would only be at the north and south part of the GW world.
Ignoring the fact that all planets have equators by definition, we know that Tyria has one because it has seasons- they're mentioned in the manual, and we know that winter/Colossus is cold because of all the antics during Wintersday. We don't know the Shiverpeaks' and Pale Tree's positions relative to the equator, but they're probably in the northern hemisphere since the Crystal Desert and Elona are to the south (possibly placing Cantha in the southern hemisphere?). But that's a subject for the lore crew.
Plants change during the seasons because winter is hard on them and because they want to reproduce during good weather. Sylvari don't reproduce to our knowledge, and as animal-like plants they're durable enough to survive the cold, so there's no reason for them to change with the seasons.
Bilbo Baggins
16-08-2011, 03:56
And I have screenshots to prove it! They don't want you to know man, but I've seen it... I've SEEN IT! The Great Northern Wall man! why do you think they want you to run AWAY from the charr? if you run past them you get to the END of THE WORLD man! They don't want you to know, but I know man...I know...
Tyria is flat.
http://www.spark72.com/aus/downloads/globe/worldtyria.jpg (http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/maps-tyria-interactive-image-heavy-t11575.html)
Please learn how climates and seasons work in real life, please, if you want to talk about applying seasons to a game.
TY! And some people might want to google "temperate rain forest" while they're at it.
True, Maguuma might be a northern rain forest, but I always assumed Maguuma and adjacent Kryta were supposed to be tropical or subtropical, given the dense jungle-and-swamp terrain. I never got very far in the game aside from Factions, but the Crystal Desert could be explained if it's in the rain shadow of the Shiverpeaks, with Maguuma and Kryta on the other side.
The Crystal Desert is what's left after the Crystal Sea got boiled off during the fight between Abaddon and the other gods, and it's well south of the Southern Shiverpeaks. Ascalon and the Charr Homelands are on the eastern side of the Shiverpeaks, and are well-watered, temperate areas described somewhere as a high plain. Kryta, on the western side, has a kind of voodoo/zombie/bayou vibe going, so it's more of a Gulf Coast environment than tropical.
It's hard to tell what the Maguuma is supposed to be. The Tarnished Coast is technically the southern part of the Maguuma, but looks much more temperate. The Maguuma we see in Prophecies consists of large areas of bare, red rock with a profusion of plant life found in deep depressions and ravines containing shallow ponds, lakes, and rivers. The plant life appears to be a sort of mix, tending toward the tropical. There are waterfalls all over the place, but heaven knows where the water feeding those is supposed to be coming from.
I don't think ANet consulted a whole passel of climatologists and ecologists in designing their continents. :azn: They ended up with a pretty odd patchwork.
Uh, GW takes place on a planet, and planets have equators. And there certainly are equatorial mountain ranges, with snow even, in real life.
Northern Canada doesn't flood in the summer. Neither do Greenland, Iceland, Russia, or other north-temperate and sub-arctic regions.
Please learn how climates and seasons work in real life, please, if you want to talk about applying seasons to a game.
ok, if you are so smart, where is the equator of guild wars?
oh yeah right, you can't say.
Because we don't have an overall planetary view that would tell us where the continents are located on the planet except in relation to each other. If you bothered to learn a tiny bit about climates and planetology, you'd know that all planets have equators and that due to Earth's axial tilt, the equator receives the most and most direct sunlight of any region on the planet, hence equatorial regions being the warmest regions on the planet while climate steadily grows temperate and eventually arctic as you head towards the poles. Earth's axial tilt is why we have seasons at all, again due to the amount of sunlight hitting the surface, and why seasonal cycles are reversed in the northern and southern hemispheres: summer taking place in June-July-August in the north, and in December-January-February in the south.
I learned all this in high school, incidentally. And I am going to assume that the planet Guild Wars takes place on is Earth-like and behaves like Earth until and unless it is stated otherwise.
Well the only help we have is this
http://www.spark72.com/aus/downloads/globe/worldtyria.jpg
and the old GW2 logo.
Though I have this memory of seeing the planet on the floor in a GW2 video somewhere too.
Soulstorm
16-08-2011, 19:06
Edit: Whoopsie, wrong thread.
You, mod person, do be a dear and tidy up this embarassing mis-post.
*Condescending hand gesture*
Because we don't have an overall planetary view that would tell us where the continents are located on the planet except in relation to each other. If you bothered to learn a tiny bit about climates and planetology, you'd know that all planets have equators and that due to Earth's axial tilt, the equator receives the most and most direct sunlight of any region on the planet, hence equatorial regions being the warmest regions on the planet while climate steadily grows temperate and eventually arctic as you head towards the poles. Earth's axial tilt is why we have seasons at all, again due to the amount of sunlight hitting the surface, and why seasonal cycles are reversed in the northern and southern hemispheres: summer taking place in June-July-August in the north, and in December-January-February in the south.
I learned all this in high school, incidentally. And I am going to assume that the planet Guild Wars takes place on is Earth-like and behaves like Earth until and unless it is stated otherwise.
it is so funny to see you sweat like a little girl, even talking smart while avoiding the question i just asked.
the answer is:
there is none, because if there is one then the game world would look different in any aspect.
southern siverpeak would be a jungle, the charr homeland would be a snow area and ascalon would be half snowy.
i have a hobby of astrology, watch allot of discovery science and even designed a game about space travels(as hobby btw) while closely looking at real life events in space.
i will not say i am an expert in astrology in any way, but i know enough to know that this world in guild wars makes no sense what so ever.
don't feel bad, WoW is even worse of, that map doesn't have any scientific fact right even if you put a scientist as class in the game that neutralizes magic in any form.
Keep in mind magic. A dragon can change the landscape forever. Those searing crystals have damaged the environment for many decennies. Shiro turned seas to crystal and forests to stone. And don't get me started about the poisonous wastelands in Elona.
Ok, yes, that's just excuses for the world not being consistent with reality, but to be honest, not like I really care... I wouldn't have noticed if not for this thread.
Auntie I
16-08-2011, 19:43
it is so funny to see you sweat like a little girl, even talking smart while avoiding the question i just asked.
the answer is:
there is none, because if there is one then the game world would look different in any aspect.
southern siverpeak would be a jungle, the charr homeland would be a snow area and ascalon would be half snowy.
i have a hobby of astrology, watch allot of discovery science and even designed a game about space travels(as hobby btw) while closely looking at real life events in space.
i will not say i am an expert in astrology in any way, but i know enough to know that this world in guild wars makes no sense what so ever.
don't feel bad, WoW is even worse of, that map doesn't have any scientific fact right even if you put a scientist as class in the game that neutralizes magic in any form.
I think you mean Astronomy. Astronomy is a natural science that deals with the study of celestial objects such as stars, planets, comets, nebulae, star clusters and galaxies.
Not Astrology which is about the study of celestial bodies interpreted as affecting personality, human affairs, and natural events.
I'll try to explain this as simply as I can: Northern regions =/= snow. News flash: London is about as far north as Canada, yet has a far more mild climate (this is due mostly to ocean currents, especially the Gulf Stream, incidentally). By equal measure, the Sahara exists at about the same latitudes as the Amazon rain forest. Not to mention, you know, seasons - for all we know, it does indeed snow in the Charr Homelands and Ascalon during the winter, but the in-game depictions of those regions do not depict them during winter. And there most certainly is plenty of snow at the equator: the mountains of Central America, for one, have their share of snow-capped peaks.
Astrology, incidentally, is not a science (astronomy is, but that's an entirely different matter) and TV is TV, not science. Furthermore, I have to remind you that games are games, and neither Guild Wars nor Guild Wars 2 nor WoW nor your probably fictitious game about "space travels" (it's "space travel," btw) are intended as perfect geographical and climate simulators.
WoW has no bearing on what we're discussing and I have no idea why you brought it up.
My original point, before your inane derail, is that the sylvari region is almost certainly not going to have seasonal changes because it appears to be a tropical rain forest region and tropical rain forests, being located at and near the equator, do not undergo distinct and visually perceptible spring/summer/fall/winter seasonal cycles.
I could also just say that GW2, like GW1, is just a game and I doubt Anet is going to have multiple redesigns of entire regions to change with the seasons and my point would be equally valid, but I think trying to correct your gross misunderstanding of the way climates and planets work might, perhaps, actually teach you something.
Soulstorm
16-08-2011, 20:04
Keep in mind magic. A dragon can change the landscape forever. Those searing crystals have damaged the environment for many decennies. Shiro turned seas to crystal and forests to stone. And don't get me started about the poisonous wastelands in Elona.
Ok, yes, that's just excuses for the world not being consistent with reality, but to be honest, not like I really care... I wouldn't have noticed if not for this thread.
Think of those landscapes as shaped by Magics of Mass Destruction, and the leap from reality to fantastical isn't all that far.
Auntie I
17-08-2011, 11:36
OK, raspberry, deep breaths, think of something calming....no need to get all worked up because of an random opinion on a site you never visit.
Keep the conversation constructive please. Ranting while fun, isn't particularly useful.
OK, since Auntie is currently not online (as well as Mal), I will intervene here:
Stop posting things (sexual orientation of Sylvari, where plant can survive and how all of this is related to in-game lore of Sylvari birth seasons etc.) with the intention to piss off community members or the mod team.
Try to stay on topic (we discuss the Sylvari week here) and don't try to be a nuisance and hope to get away with it.
This is a final warning to those posters involved in those posts during the last few pages of discussion! I have removed your posts for now and leave it to Auntie/Mal to put them back on the thread.
Everybody not able to put a leash on his tongue will be able to communicate with his off-line buddies only, because I will give him a time out.
Gorani
Auntie I
17-08-2011, 15:48
Thank you Gorani for the assist. This one devolved rather quickly and far beyond where it should have.
As has been mentioned, no more warnings.
I think you mean Astronomy. Astronomy is a natural science that deals with the study of celestial objects such as stars, planets, comets, nebulae, star clusters and galaxies.
Not Astrology which is about the study of celestial bodies interpreted as affecting personality, human affairs, and natural events.
oops, my bad......native language difference and all:tongue:
Just found these images. Sylvari vampires?
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/back-their-roots-sylvari-redesign-t10565p76.html
http://www.flaptrapsart.com/uploads/6/5/3/6/6536965/6790152_orig.jpg
http://www.flaptrapsart.com/uploads/6/5/3/6/6536965/1663098_orig.jpg
Just found these images. Sylvari vampires?
Probably not. Concepts for the Nightmare Court perhaps. The feathers and the very human body type are far from what Sylvari have evolved to after the redesign in August.
Yay non-Twilight vampires!
Probably not. Concepts for the Nightmare Court perhaps. The feathers and the very human body type are far from what Sylvari have evolved to after the redesign in August.
Good point. I only guessed that they are Sylvari b/c of their long ears. But its probably just concept arts. And blood drinking trees doesn't really make much sense anyways.
Yay non-Twilight vampires!
I won't be so sure about that. Change those ears and we will have some human vampires. We might very well see them in the game.
Yummmm hot Twilight vampires. :P
http://www.beyondhollywood.com/uploads/2009/09/hot-vampire-chicks.jpg
Guided Daggers
26-01-2012, 12:24
Noes, CHIPS! You posted an image in sentence that says "hot" and the image is broken! The agony!
Sure doesn't make sense that these would be Sylvari, because Sylvari have sap, not blood.
Maybe humanoid creatures feasting on Tengu (hence feathers). The horror!
Sap works as blood would.
Sap works as blood would.
Maple syrup! The flavored kind!
Maple syrup! The flavored kind!
That's it, one of my sylvaris will be called Maple Alaris.
That's it, one of my sylvaris will be called Maple Alaris.
BloodMaple Gladgul - nice ring to that…
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