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I'm not posting this in the main forums because it'll probably be considered a whine thread.
But I kinda feel the need to post something somewhere.

Someone I know, and I'm not naming anyone, but I'm sure those who know them know thier situation, has multiple account, most of which were given to them by people who decided to leave the game, but wanted someone to 'keep their seat warm', as it were.

The end result is someone with access to a lot of accounts.
Now yes, this can be an unfair advantage, but...
I also consider it nice that there's someone you can trust to turn over your account to, and then if you decide you want it back, they'll give it back with everything on it, and maybe a few extras. Possibly minus a B day present or two, but considering how many nick gifts that can be gotten at times, they can easily 'pay' the person back.
(y5 b day gifts were going for around 100k last I saw, maybe down to 90k. That's about 20 nick gifts. Worse comes to worse, they can just give back the B day mini that came out of it, or buy them a new one)

Thing is, this person who had all these accounts got most of them suspended for reasons unknown, and then their entire IP got banned.
My guess is anet thinks it's someone who's working as a real money trader (RMT).

Now while I can't say for certain about this person, and I've been wrong about people before, but said person does NOT feel to me like someone who would trade items for RL cash. What they ARE... are generous, and very helpful, usually giving quite a bit to people who are in need.
This includes collectable items for nick, mats for armors or weapons, and even accepting collectables for upcoming events like Canthan New Year, which when I get said items for, I usually turn over to them.

I'm sure that anet has various bots doing the work for them, and to many trades for nothing will show up as suspicious, but you would THINK they'd at least do a follow up right away before suspending an account?
Well, said person has called, actually CALLED anet, and emailed gaile. Nothing.
They gave them the benifit of the doubt, considering that PAX just happend, but it's been almost a week now.

At this point they're in the "F*** ANET!" mode.
My hope is that anet personel get to them sometime soon before we loose ANOTHER valued person to the game.

And not just this game, but the next one.

I'm sending this link to this blog to regina, for what little good it does.

What worries me most is how easilly it could happen to me or other people I know.
I'll fully admit I have extra accounts.
One is my main. Noa.
One is my secondary I got from a cheap trilogy pack from best buy.Tavisha.
One is a friend of mine who got all the extra campaigns, and then decided they didn't want to play anymore, but let me have the account to keep working on it. Their email still works.
Enker.
And one other that I sorta took over from a friend of mine who simply used it for storage, and then later decided it wasn't worth keeping.
I've since upgraded that account, as it was a factions only, with eye of the north, and then later Nightfall when I found a cheap 'used' copy at the comic store. Still looking for a single of proph. Kyshaya.
And then there's Grave of Hearts account, who lets me use theirs during events and for nick gift runs when they have no net.
I don't use that account very much at all, because it hasn't been fully abandoned, but the player sees not much more in the game to really mess with.
The problem they have though, is they linked to someone else's NCsoft account so they could get the BMP pack, but grave and the other person both forgot info to access said account, and the company the email is registered to is DEAD.
Which is likely to be a problem come GW2.
This is something I've wanted to ask gaile or any other customer support person for a while now what can be done there.

Thing is, I've traded stuff between these accounts, and to other people on occasion.
Like... GIVING away a gold year 4 mini.

I honestely think there needs to be a warning of how much one can trade for nothing before they get in trouble, but of course Anet doesn't want people to know that because then the RMT people will know...
But here's the thing... they probably ALREADY know! I have no doubt that some of the older ones have a good idea of what they can and can't get away with, and have it marked down somewhere. The rest of us are playing catch up.

Edit: after having talked with the person, I've come to realize that even if they convince anet they're not RMT people, they're still entirely fcked.
The no account trading policy means that unless they can show proof of thier account, it's not theirs. Worse yet, they can't find the CD key, and the email that was originally used to start it is long gone, considering they're in military and move around a lot.

The game just got black for me.

Updated 10-09-2010 at 11:53 by Noa Brightington

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  1. Lytha's Avatar
    I never really interacted with either of you two, but it makes me sad that Anet managed once again to push some of the more enthusiastic and active players away.

    My best wishes for you two, that this matter will be resolved quickly and in your favour.
  2. Noa Brightington's Avatar
    well... this is new. Never had comments stretch to two pages before.
    Anyway, I hope that the two A's will at least keep us informed of their ongoing battle with the great anet in order to return to us.
    I take it that this also means that all the CNY stuffs were on a storage account that isn't owned by them? (not one of the mains that CAN be returned)
    Such as it is, I have an account of my own that I use for canthan item storage, so I can at least hold onto any crap from there if anyone wants.
    The other thing I'm wondering, can they get in touch with former account owners to let them know of the anet shennanigans?

    The other pissy thing I notice, nick has been in some seriously easy spots these last few weeks, and I'll bet, if they get thier accounts back, he moves to some endgame spot out in nowhere asking for 10 of some salvage item crap that no one collects and goes for 3k from players.

    Something else I have to ask of Arther and Kahlan, what exactly do you think set the alarm bells off?
    I mean, what did you trade over that period, and how much?
    I ask because I'd like to get an idea of what I should be watching out for.
    My guess is it was batches of keys. Either Z keys or lockpicks.

    Grey frustration edit: Saw gaile get on today, apologised if this was something she couldn't answer, but asked her how the situation was going with them.
    She logged off, said nothing.
    A simple 'sorry, can't talk about it' would have been something.

    depressing me as all hell.
    Updated 19-09-2010 at 03:05 by Noa Brightington
  3. Arthur Victus's Avatar
    (Kahlan here as I won't get on main account and Arthur asked me to relay what *I* think happened.)

    The day I got Nick when he was asking for Glowing Hearts, we decided to go ahead and dump some of our items that just aren't selling. So, merchanted most of the items, then transferred them over to one account. Then we transferred all coin off those accts (a total of LESS THAN 100K) to my main account (which they won't give me because I do not have the Proph key). And Arthur handed off 100k to my main.

    THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'VE NOT DONE BEFORE. WE'VE DONE THIS THOUSANDS OF TIMES IN THE PAST WITH EVEN MORE COIN BEING HANDED BACK AND FORTH.

    I still don't know why those 16 and not all 24.

    And yes, the CNY items, which our guild alone had gathered up enough for almost 3 districts, are on an account to which they refuse to relinquish even though we've provided them with as many keys as we currently can find.
  4. Noa Brightington's Avatar
    The only thing I Can think of is the other 4 you weren't using at the time.
    And just because you don't have one key, they won't give you the account back?

    ........

    okay...
    Must be because they think that account is the ringleader account.
    Anyway, I'm gonna start collecting items for the CNY stuff, and saving them. If and when you get the account up and running again, they're yours.

    God... I knew it had something to do with fcking NIck.
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