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Rant about pay to play, and the people defending it.

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First of all, this is not a rant against people who pay a sub. People do whatever the want with their money. It is a rant against those people who pay a sub AND zealously defend the sub as the only business model that can give quality gaming.

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How come defenders of pay to play seem to assume the only reason anyone would have a problem with subs it is that they are cheap? Or poor? Or both? I mean, is it really that hard to grasp that people can afford a sub just fine, just not agree with the concept?

And how come defenders of pay to play always seem to fall back on a combination of arguments that do just not make sense? I know it is hard to admit that you have been had on a monthly basis for the last few years (choice-supportive bias anyone?), but come on.

How does:
"You need to pay a sub to get content, have support and keep up the servers" (lolwut, servers are what these days, a buck fifty? ) compute with "If you dont have a sub you just get evil MT that'll cost you even more".

I mean, both cannot be true now can they?

Or maybe neither are true. Or rather, the entire premise is wrong since there is no proof that subs actually go back into the game in the first place.

Quite the opposite.

Blizzard do not need to double dip to keep WoW running (or rather triple dip, since they have box cost + sub + MT), they just do it because they can. I saw recent numbers that WoW in total has cost in the vicinity of $200 milllion, whereas subs during that same time has been about $3 BILLION. So basically $2.8 BILLION has been pure profit. Now, I do not begrudge Blizzard their money, they have worked hard for it. And if they can get people to pay the sub, all the more power to them. But I do question the intelligence of gamers who can look at those numbers and with a straight face claim that subs are needed to support the game. It is self-delusion on such a scale that it is practically a religion. And a really bad one at that.

And what is up with the "subs keep douche bags away" line? Like, seriously, have these people ever played any subbed MMO. Ever?? The ability and willingness to pay a sub is not dependent on being a nice person. Nor on age. Honestly, it is not rocket science. However, if you are the kind of person who would brag about paying $15 a month just to keep those not able or willing to pay out of your tree house, does that not put you squarely into the category of people you wanted to exclude? Which goes back to how sub-based games are anything but douche bag free. Catch 22 at work.

Anyways. Even if all sub money did go back into the game (Maybe there are some MMO out there that do this, like EVE who dont charge for expansions afaik. Cudos for not double dipping!), I would still think subs suck. And it has nothing to do with whether or not I can afford $15 a month. Which I for the record can. It is because subs promote degenerate game design (as do F2P business model imo, but that is not the subject today) .

A developer that gets more money the longer you to stay in the game have the incentive to make sure you stay in the game for as long as possible (duh). This means inclusion of time sinks whose only purpose is to, well, sink your time. Travel time. Exponential leveling curve. Gear stat grind, even for PvP. Add in some random number generators for phat loot and you are golden. (Fun fact; A rat that gets a treat at random will keep pushing the treat dispenser lever long after it is fed up with treats, just piling them up. Whereas a rat with a guaranteed treat drop will only push the lever when it is actually hungry. Gambling addiction is a *****.)

In contrast, a developer who gets more money the more fun you have in the game (so that you will want to buy expansions and add-ons) have the incentive to make sure that you do in deed have fun in the game. This means minimizing time sinks, letting you concentrate on actual honest-to-God FUN. Instant travel. Flat leveling curve. No gear stat grind. And predictable rewards.

Any bells ringing yet?

I for one know what message I want my money to send.
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  1. Noa Brightington's Avatar
    I would suppose you're mainly talking about WoW in regards to Pay per Play.
    Forgive my ignorance, but what is MT? I'm going to have to assume it's Money trading, or in game store merch.
    Fact of the matter is, I agree with this to an extent, although as far as Blizzard goes, they've done a lot of work, and have made their game as addicting as possible to the masses.
    The 15 bucks a month thing is really... excessive. Especially if you have people paying month after month. Blizz could update the game for free, and still be making mint.
    Several things they could be doing better, 1) offering a free month with each upgrade of the game. When you buy the basic game, you get one month free. When you buy Burning, Wrath, and Cata, no freebies. Just access to newer content and higher skill levels. Hell, they could literally GIVE the original game to people for free, and let the upgrades pay for the rest. Only thing that keeps them from doing that instead of the trial accounts are all the damn gold sellers.
    The other thing that bugs me, if you're buying a months worth of time, they should GIVE you a month's worth of time.
    Not this... soon as you apply it, the clock is ticking, crap.
    Between that, and the fact that you have to deal with server downtime during maintenance, and not get credit for it... That's really not right.
    blows my mind.

    Lotta people been switching to Rift, I haven't been real impressed or thrilled with it, but it IS an alternative. I'm looking to see how they are applying their payment policies and time application. If it turns out to be just another WoW clone, I'll pass for the most part.

    BTW, when you have anyone trying to justify the pay to play, ask them which game they play. If it's anything other then WoW, see what they have to say. If it's WoW... tell them to talk to the hand.
    Updated 15-04-2011 at 10:35 by Noa Brightington
  2. Lensor's Avatar
    Wee, a comment!

    Sorry, MT= microtransactions, so yes a cash shop where you buy anything but the actual game. Not that there is anything "micro" about the GW1 merc packs, but that is still the term used.

    Anyways, yes, I know that WoW is the outlier, and most sub MMOs dont rake in the overprofits they do. Still it is generally a dishonest payment model since most of them have the expansion box cost + the cash shop anyways, even though subs are supposed to "pay for constant content updates". Only EVE (afaik) covers all costs with the sub, you are never asked to pay extra. I am just dumbstruck how many people seem to like being ripped off, even defending the company doing the ripping.

    I have heard both good and bad things about Rift. Seems to be basically a reskinned WoW clone with some random spawns. So if you like WoW-type gameplay you will like it, otherwise you will not.

    Lately I have mostly gone into the sub debate with people waiting for the new Star Wars MMO. People who dismiss GW2 as being crap due to the no sub fees alone. It drives me bonkers.

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