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    Why again is warrior essential to an Illusionary Weapon build? It's not like it contributes anything.

    With maxed illusion, distortion is easily sustainable as a defense, and illusory weapon clearly requires nothing but energy to be effective in combat. Tactics? Pfft. Go earth elementalist/mesmer. You'll get more energy for the same essential skills.

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    Distortion is an excellent defense, but only for so long. You can only recast it so many times before you finally run out of energy and then your just running waiting for energy to regen.

    I find that Distortion should only be used in a pinch. Sympathetic Visages takes care of my guy vs most warriors, except a few exccelent energy based Warrior builds ive come across.

    As for why to go Warrior? The speed buffs....they just make a huge difference in the build, and its important to get that edge on the enemy. But there are also some excellent R/Me IW builds as well. Make a trapper that uses Wilderness, Expertise, and surprise Illusion. He has exccelent evasion stances allowing him to go toe to toe with any Warrior and most likely dispatch them.

    IW is that nasty surprise that you didnt expect your opponent to have, and you dont have to have a Mesmer and Warrior combination to use it effectively. Theres a lot of mellee rangers around these days as well.

    As for your build Kane, I've seen Warriors use IW effectively, but its just a matter of damage types. Your build seems fairly energy dependant, and if IW is simply your counter to evasion stances then more power to you, and it will serve you well.
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    Swordsmanship

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsume
    Distortion is an excellent defense, but only for so long. You can only recast it so many times before you finally run out of energy and then your just running waiting for energy to regen.

    I find that Distortion should only be used in a pinch. Sympathetic Visages takes care of my guy vs most warriors, except a few exccelent energy based Warrior builds ive come across.

    As for why to go Warrior? The speed buffs....they just make a huge difference in the build, and its important to get that edge on the enemy. But there are also some excellent R/Me IW builds as well. Make a trapper that uses Wilderness, Expertise, and surprise Illusion. He has exccelent evasion stances allowing him to go toe to toe with any Warrior and most likely dispatch them.

    IW is that nasty surprise that you didnt expect your opponent to have, and you dont have to have a Mesmer and Warrior combination to use it effectively. Theres a lot of mellee rangers around these days as well.

    As for your build Kane, I've seen Warriors use IW effectively, but its just a matter of damage types. Your build seems fairly energy dependant, and if IW is simply your counter to evasion stances then more power to you, and it will serve you well.
    Hi i just started a Mes war the other day,when i was doing missions with my Ranger/Me and obtained the distortion Illusion,It made me think ,hmmm maybe these illusions can serve a Mes to be a good war.
    Anyway i went to check and see if anyone had been posting about the Me/W and found this thread.

    i noticed that in these builds i have been seeing ,no one is putting much into swordsmanship.being that i have been using a ranger/mes and a Nec/Ele the whole time,i don't know much about swordsmanship.

    so i have a few questions.

    1) do you do more damage with your regular hits with a higher swordsmanship? Or does it only effect the different swordsmanship skills?

    2) would having a low swordsmanship not allow you to make full use of the higher swordsmanship req swords out there?

    3) my idea on the ms/war build i have is to use illusion and inspiration one to use distortion for the defense,and the other to keep the energy to support distortion. So with your knoledge of skills to come for my young fighter,do you think this can/.will work? or should i stick with some of the tried and true methods i have been reading about from you guys?

    Thanx,laters

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    Thumbs up Anti-disenchantment

    I use Me/W with:

    IW
    Flurry
    Clumsiness
    Sig. of Clumsiness
    Power Spike
    Ether Feast
    Leech Signet
    Cyclone Axe

    Does significant damage with IW combined with Flurry and Cyclone Axe to tank and kill most of them off. All the other skills besides Ether Feast, which is for healing, interrupt opponent's disenchanting skills in PvP or PvE. I don't have attribute points yet since mine is PvE and i just started him in NF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hokutan View Post
    Hi i just started a Mes war the other day,when i was doing missions with my Ranger/Me and obtained the distortion Illusion,It made me think ,hmmm maybe these illusions can serve a Mes to be a good war.
    Anyway i went to check and see if anyone had been posting about the Me/W and found this thread.

    i noticed that in these builds i have been seeing ,no one is putting much into swordsmanship.being that i have been using a ranger/mes and a Nec/Ele the whole time,i don't know much about swordsmanship.

    so i have a few questions.

    1) do you do more damage with your regular hits with a higher swordsmanship? Or does it only effect the different swordsmanship skills?

    2) would having a low swordsmanship not allow you to make full use of the higher swordsmanship req swords out there?

    3) my idea on the ms/war build i have is to use illusion and inspiration one to use distortion for the defense,and the other to keep the energy to support distortion. So with your knoledge of skills to come for my young fighter,do you think this can/.will work? or should i stick with some of the tried and true methods i have been reading about from you guys?

    Thanx,laters
    Since IW technically doesn't make your attacks hit, but rather deals damage instead, swordsmanship doesn't affect them. If you're going with an IW exclusive build, don't bother unless you want to have a back-up if your enchantment gets stripped.

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    Ohai, also double post.
    I have a sneaking suspicion the questions don't need answering anymore.

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    Necro's must got some SICK skill buffs to pull this thread back to life after 5 years!...

    nothing to see here....

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    Thats a huge question that melee wont target you, even knowing you're iw. Thus l would rather take 12 tactics and 2 of this riposte skills. Still, l prefer me/a to run iw. 1st of all wars have no enchantments at all, making it rly easy for me/nec/air eles to ruin your build. With 30 sec iw recharche you just have to have at least one cover and stealing 200+ hp from yourself every 30 sec is not the best idea ever. Next, if wiki says freigned neutrality is for running it doesnt actualy mean it is. Yes, it cant be maintained, but here it just doesnt say you have stop doing your job beeing preasured by 2-3 anoying wars.

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    Seriously? More necro's in a mesmer thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simply Kedde View Post
    Seriously? More necro's in a mesmer thread?
    Honestly, on a board that doesn't get much use due to age of the game, why complain when someone actually decides to post.

    OH NO somebody posted in an old thread!!

    Obviously if anyone posted, they were interested enough to do so, and complaining that they posted serves to reduce participation on a forum. I fail to see the logic in that.

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