thanks for the idea Azazel,
i thought quintus thought that odran was a mursaat himself, but we actually only for certain that he build/created those gates and that he was torn apart by angry spirits, i just had an idea that maybe those spirits where the mursaat.the Ghosts couldn't then because they forgot how to, but they remembered and even now very well can. While I cannot disprove the inter-dimensional theory, I don't agree with it. And I highly disagree with the Lord Odran connection. That of Quintus in his Odran Code thread too (which I have many many comments on but don't feel like resurrecting just to make corrections on mistakes that are minor but hurt his credibility).
Since we talk to that Seer and when Odran first entered the rift 221
years have past. (at least 2 centuries).
I know it is a far out hypothesis, but it does fit in.
I dont know how the eruption is tied with it, but the eruption was a mayor event in Tyrian History, and an event of great importance, thats why i think it maybe can be a reason for them to chance plains of excistance(voluntarily or not).
By giving arguments and telling how you see it already helps.I honestly cannot help with disproving anything, as little is known about their history. And all I have to say is that this is one far out Hypothesis. From my perspective.
Lets me review my theory and put all arguments in it.
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29-11-2008, 01:28 #484
Mursaat Structure Materials/Bloodstone-Mursaat Relation/Jade Armors
Mursaat Structure Materials
Recently I got thinking about the Mursaat Structures while working on a video. Now we all know that one idea that has been around that I have disagreed with as illogical for a while: The structures are made out of the Bloodstone materials.
At first, I had three thoughts. First, why would the Mursaat use that which takes souls upon death as their buildings – forcing themselves to be on them daily?
Second, how could there be so much Bloodstone material? Surely they wouldn’t carry the Bloodstone in masse across the sea.
My third thought was that the Mursaat Structures were too purple compared to the Bloodstones. And this is rather true. The Mursaat Structures are in fact purplish-red while the Bloodstones are more of a Crimson Red.
One of the Gates of the Onyx Gates:
The crimson red part of the Bloodstone Fen Bloodstone:
However, when I went through Abaddon’s Mouth recently and instead of rushing through the later half like I usually do (along with most people) I took the time to look at the shapes of the structures, and I noticed something interesting.
Mursaat structure materials jutting out of the rocks underneath normal ground level:
This made me reconsider the possibility of the structures being made out of the Bloodstone.
So I looked at the Bloodstone in Bloodstone Caves. This is known to be a less crimson red color, closer to that of the Mursaat structures.
However, this Bloodstone is extremely dirty as well, so that might be a reason for the color.
Then a thought hit me. If the Bloodstone in Abaddon’s Mouth really is the keystone, shouldn’t it be bigger then the other Bloodstones?
Think about it, the other four Bloodstones cannot re-unite unless the Keystone is used. What could make it so the Keystone locks the others together? I came with two theories:
1) While the four other Bloodstones are linked to a school of Magic, the Keystone holds a magic that acts like a magnet for the Bloodstones, locking them together.
2) The Keystone takes its location in the middle of the four Bloodstones, acting like a placeholder.
If it is in fact the later, which I believe it to be, then the Keystone would be much larger then the rest. As such, it could easily reach the outer gates of the Onyx Gate (where the first picture is taken and where the second two bosses are fought). Also, as such, there would be plenty of Bloodstone materials.
So that solves the issue of amount of Bloodstone for materials. But it still doesn’t solve the other two problems.
Well, I think I found the answer to the color-issure.
Of the Keystone Bloodstone – the only Bloodstone the materials should be related to – the Bloodstone that we have always known to be the Bloodstone is next to a lot of lava and lighting. The rest has less lighting, although not a lot less, still less.
So I took a picture at the best lighting I could find:
Not perfectly crimson, but it seems closer. But why not the exact same color?
I believe that the crimson red color was made by the proximity to the lava – perfectly logical in comparison to the structures. It seems the farther up; the less red and darker it looks. But this could be just lighting as well. This is as far as I have been able to answer this.
Now for the last issue I had before. Why build things out of something that could prove dangerous to handle and could trap your soul upon death preventing resurrection?
I believe the symbol we see on what has been thought to be the only part of the Bloodstone to be the source of soul draining.
Why do I say that?
Because why does the Preservation Bloodstone (Bloodstone Fen) and the Keystone have the same affect while the Aggression Bloodstone (Bloodstone Caves) has a different effect?
Because the soul draining is not the effect of the Bloodstones:
Preservation Bloodstone: Brings life to the Maguuma and gives magical powers to the water.
Aggression Bloodstone: The Aura of the Bloodstone
Keystone Bloodstone: Links the other Bloodstones together.
You may say “But there are the symbols in the Bloodstone Caves too, what effect do those do?” Simple. They absorb souls (taken care of by Gadd in the Mission) which locks/unlocks the doors. Just as the inscriptions on the Keystone Bloodstone locks/unlocks the Door of Komali.
So the Bloodstone used, the Keystone Bloodstone, has no affect on the Mursaat via the structures.
Just a little side thing I noticed about the Jade Armors:
You can make out a body in the center of the casing that they come out of. These seem to me to resemble someone in warrior White Mantle armor. The most dominant part of it is the face, which seems, to me at least, to have a shocked/scared/in pain expression.
22-09-2010, 06:27 #485
Wow... this would be a great thread