The Vizier cast a spell that turned Orr into a pool and all its people into "ebil a-T-bieruss a-zombees".Originally Posted by Seissor
She wasn't caught in the Orrian Cataclysm, and we don't know she is, remember, there are eggs in her lair, that suggests there is at least, or was at least, one male dragon somewhere.Originally Posted by Seissor
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25-06-2006, 21:26 #41|||Quintus Antonius Adepphius Philologus Tyrianicus Canthacus Elonacus Durheimus|||
25-06-2006, 22:42 #42Originally Posted by Quintus Antonius
The gods themselves created her, so perhaps there never was another like her(?) planned.
I think I´ve read somewhere that a species of insects has females that can reproduce without males, if necessary - essentially creating clones of themselves.
Might be the same here. That way, Glint could be near immortal too, and yet be able to die.
Now that I think of it - this *could* solve the mission-bonus problem.
If these eggs are, let´s say cloning vats, in truth, then one got activated as soon as we killed her, giving "birth" to the next (copy/clone of) Glint.
Far-fetched, I know, but might work. ?
25-06-2006, 23:04 #43
I don't think Glint would be so defensive of her young if she were asexual, because she could just produce more.
The Discovery Channel had a special on hypothetical dragons based on mythos and known animals of similar characteristics (dinosaurs, birds, modern lizards). They concluded that dragons would have very long gestation periods as well as very rare mating cycles. In other words, dragons live long because they only mate every ten years or so, and produce very few young, which is why the species was slowly dying.
I don't believe Glint is asexual. She is rather big to be asexual, and also doesn't have the biological make-up of an asexual creature. Asexualism usually only happens in small creatures because, while it promotes rapid population growth, it also weakens the gene pool of the species.|||Quintus Antonius Adepphius Philologus Tyrianicus Canthacus Elonacus Durheimus|||
25-06-2006, 23:16 #44Originally Posted by Quintus Antonius
25-06-2006, 23:27 #45Originally Posted by Gmr Leon
I do believe the Discovery Channel's special was a good piece of scientific-fiction (not science fiction, mind you). They based it off of known things and just applied the mythical element, much like we do here in the Lore Forum, which is why I referenced the program.|||Quintus Antonius Adepphius Philologus Tyrianicus Canthacus Elonacus Durheimus|||
26-06-2006, 03:49 #46
Originally Posted by Santax
In the Dragon's Lair mission, Glint mentions that it was almost 300 years ago when she first foresaw the Flameseeker Prophecies. If the Elonians knew about the Flameseeker Prophecies and used that as their impetus to come to the Crystal Desert in an attempt to Ascend, that means the Elonians must have arrived in the Crystal Desert somewhere between 1402 AE and possibly as late as 1650 AE. (For reference, the current year is 1072 AE).
Other civilians in the desert speak of the Elonians as some ancient settlers, but remember that to humans, a hundred years or more is already considered very old.
26-06-2006, 04:34 #47Originally Posted by Quintus Antonius
I disagree about her being asexual, as there are other dragons in tyria (namely the bone dragons), as well as whole areas to the north of Kryta and Maguma that we haven't (can't) explored yet. Yes, there are asexual species out there, but obligatory asexualism is almost exclusively limited to monocellular animals. Animals such as aphids, some hymenoptera, and some lizards display facultative asexualism: they can undergo parthenogenesis if no males are present. However, if a male is present, they will mate. Also, if Glint's physiology is based on that of reptiles, then changing the temperature of her eggs can drastically effect the gender of the hatchling. So if she wanted an equal ratio of male and female Dragonlets, she'd only need to do a little Water Magic/Fire Magic balancing. Since it'd be in her best genetic interest to mix up her gene pool, she'd probably want to have at least some males in her offspring.
I also disagree about the cloning idea. Despite the theory made popular in Sixth Day, a clone does not retain the memories of the cloned organism. Simply cloning herself into eggs would produce helpless, baby dragons without the knowledge and wisdom that Glint has procured over the years.
Lastly, does anyone have any comments on the fact that her eggs look crystaline? It was said that she made her home inside a single grain of sand, not that she was partly made of sand or anything like that, so I'd like to propose that she covers her eggs magically with some sort of extra casing that basically puts them in suspended animation, so that her little cave won't be filled with huge numbers of little dragons running around and eating whatever it is she eats (which is...?).
26-06-2006, 04:36 #48Originally Posted by Zaxares
Still, your point is correct. I believe the Elonians existed in the Crystal Desert about 200 years ago. I'm not sure where I'm pulling that number from, but I think it is cited in game somewhere.|||Quintus Antonius Adepphius Philologus Tyrianicus Canthacus Elonacus Durheimus|||
26-06-2006, 05:15 #49
Originally Posted by Quintus Antonius
26-06-2006, 07:15 #50Originally Posted by Zaxares
See, let's all learn a valuable lesson from this. Science based on assumptions, regardless of who or what they are based on, is science doomed to fail!|||Quintus Antonius Adepphius Philologus Tyrianicus Canthacus Elonacus Durheimus|||