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    Quote Originally Posted by theoriginalbraingoo View Post
    And if you follow the theory of the Charr using one of the stones in the searing, that would explain why we don't see a bloodstone in the cutscene.
    I was hoping I could avoid adding another sticky to our already sticky-covered Lore Forum area, but I suppose I should. That is, another threads of on-going research thread.

    The reason I say this is because if you check one of the threads, that I think is still on the first page, it includes a copy of The Ecology of the Charr. Within that article it details how the Searing was a product of the Cauldron of Cataclysm and not a Bloodstone. Thus dispelling the old theory of the Charr using one to cause the Searing.
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    But if the blood stones where very tiny, why are they sealed in a big Stone thing
    because in the bloodstone caves there is an rock and its a little smaller then bloodstone fen
    i dont think that the gods could make a thing wich was the size of a bug , there giants, they needed little hands to make it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by La Jaffa View Post
    But if the blood stones where very tiny, why are they sealed in a big Stone thing
    because in the bloodstone caves there is an rock and its a little smaller then bloodstone fen
    i dont think that the gods could make a thing wich was the size of a bug , there giants, they needed little hands to make it..
    The Gods don't have any size at all. They could have made the bloodstones at any size they saw fit.

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    Yes, but there always pictured as big,
    but now i think of it they could have human forums as in the tale of lyssa
    my bad...

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    Alright, after quite a long break from this site, I am back and resuming my research on this topic. That being said, I need some information from the people who have done the appropriate mission. That information being, what traits if any are exhibited in the area surrounding the stone?

    More reasoning behind my doubts about Ice Caves being the location of the stone:

    In all directions of travel from where Evennia is being held, there are Stone Summit. I don't think the mission was the sacrifice site, so much as where the intended sacrifices got pinned down. We know the Mursaat can obliterate the dwarves with very few casualties on their part, only really losing when they get caught in siege attacks, but the Mantle guards would probably be slaughtered, along with any other humans they had with them. So, at this point I am assuming the Mursaat team at the end were actually well-timed reinforcements sent for to break the dead-lock and let them proceed to the proper destination. That they arrived in time to chase you (or clear your way if done the other way) was merely coincidental.

    That being said, what would their route have been to get where they were? If we can figure out the route, we can establish where else there was NOT a known stone. What I would really like is a timeline for the Stone Summit and Grenth's Footprint. Specifically when the Summit were formed, and when the Footprint was 'established'. Being that it is in the center of dwarf territory, and the dwarven practice of what to do when something gets in your way (powder kegs), I almost think we will never find one of the stones.

    As I mentioned in another thread, every region where strange magic is prevalent we have elementals. And I mean in large quantities, not just a spot here or there. Wizard's Folly near the tower, Mineral Springs near the satellite dish looking thing, Drakkar Lake near... well, the lake and its contents. Then just outside Grenth's Footprint we have an elemental BOSS who has a skill called Keystone Signet (as was mentioned earlier in the thread). If my new theory is right and the elementals form from the magical energies of the area, that boss could have formed around a fragment of a bloodstone blown to pieces to clear the way for the dwarves, granting its powers and its unusual class (as I recall every other elemental of that type was either warrior or ele, and that boss is the only mesmer).

    If the Mursaat were keeping tabs on things like I think they were, once they figured out what happened at the RoF, they probably would have had someone figure out where the pieces went. After capturing Evennia, and knowing the BSF stone was unavailable, they probably consulted the old data, and saw the stone that hit the Shiverpeaks. Dragging Evennia along, they get to where it should have been, only to encounter a lot of ticked off dwarves and no stone, then driven to the Ice Caves which is actually a reasonably defensible spot, barring stampedes and siege weapons aimed improperly.

    As for not using the one in the Gadd's Encampment area, as was mentioned it is 3 floors underground. When they searched they probably didn't dig for the stones, or didn't actively search once they had the BSF one located and usable.

    To quote the old classic Chrono Trigger: "That is my belief. At least for now."
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    epic post of fortitude my friend.

    I like that idea, I believe thats the nail in the coffin for that last bloodstone also.

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    I doubt it. It seems likely to me that the Bloodstone seen in the Bloodstone Caves isn't exactly three floors down as it is three floors into the mountain. I say this because we can see the hole from which the Bloodstone entered into where it is now. From its appearance, it seems it hasn't been used by the Mursaat, as they seem to harvest the "jade" that sort of grows off of the Bloodstones. However, it does seem that they may have sealed it; if we are to take the symbol on the door and Bloodstone Fen to be crafted by the Mursaat to harness their energy when a sacrifice is made.

    I'm not quite sure what the plan was, with the Mursaat, but it seems more likely that there isn't a Bloodstone nearby and available for use. Instead it seems like they may have been investigating the area for it and taking Evennia and Saidra along as guinea pigs in case they did find it to see what would happen if a sacrifice were made on it.

    It does just say that "rumor has it there is another Bloodstone in the mountain peaks". However, from what I'm able to tell of Linsey's response, the Bloodstone found in the Bloodstone Caves is the Shiverpeaks Bloodstone.

    Hope this makes sense, I was looking for the source talking about the Shiverpeaks and Bloodstone and modified this a bit to fit the confirmation of there even being a rumor of one.
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    I agree with Leon with the Bloodstone in the Bloodstone Caves not bring three levels underground, but three levels into the dungeon. There are quite a few dungeons that have the last level with holes in the ceiling, Frostmaw Burrows is one such dungeon, as is Catacombs of Kathandrax.

    As for the bloodstone in the shiverpeak rumor Leon was talking about, the only information we have about a Bloodstone in the Shiverpeaks is by Glint during the cinematic in Dragon's Lair.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glint
    For years the Mursaat and their human disciples have hunted down the Chosen, murdering them to prevent the prophecies from coming to pass. But you have slipped through their fingers, and your friends now pay the price. The one called Markis betrays them as he betrayed you, and if you do not hurry to their aid, none will survive. Many have already been taken captive. Their souls will be reaped upon one of the five Bloodstones, just as the Chosen you witnessed being slaughtered in the Maguuma Jungle. If this happens, no magic on this world or any other will bring them back. Of the future, this you must know: You story does not end in the mountains.
    The issue, is that Glint never says that the Bloodstone is in the Shiverpeaks, but that the Shining Blade is being held captive in the Shiverpeaks waiting to be killed on a Bloostone.

    As for your new theory terakhan, I disagree with the blowing up of the Bloodstone. If lava and an eruption did not split up the Bloodstones even more then the five pieces, I do not think powder kegs can crush one into smithereens.

    And, I don't think that there should be a connection made by the Elite Skill Keystone Signet, and the Keystone of the 5 Bloodstones, if that is what you were getting at. Because a keystone is a vital piece to an object, be it an arch or an ecosystem, a universal term, not a Bloodstone term.

    As for the "elementals made from a large source of magic," that in of itself is undeniable, however, many, if not most, of the elementals in the Northern and Southern Shiverpeaks are made by the Stone Summit with the use of a Heart of Ice. And the area you are looking for that has the Mesmer and Warrior bosses, is Spearhead Peak. I'm not saying that that small group of elementals were made by the Stone Summit, although I think they were, because it has been a while since I was in that area and I am not sure if the elementals there are near stone summit, and if they are whether they fight each other or not.

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    Actually the minor quote I integrated into one of my sentences was from the Blade Scout found in Ice Caves of Sorrow. She actually informs you that there is a rumor of a Bloodstone being in the Shiverpeaks.

    Aside from that there is no other mention of Bloodstones in the Shiverpeaks.
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    Hmmm, I forgot that the Blade Scout mentions a bloodstone, even though it is a rumor. And I think Glint would be smarter then a Shining Blade member with the whereabouts of the Bloodstones, she would have said if there was one in the southern Shiverpeaks, more motivation for us.

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