GW:F -- Bring your own keg! (or, the book trick MUST go!)

[Ora]

Actually the Juggernauts would kill the Siege Turtles and then you would have to kill everything yourself anyway.

And by the way, there's another thread on this over in the Ritualist forum.

Hmm, I think there is a way around that, since the siege turtle attacks don't do collateral damage
Let's wait and see untill the game is released.

[Rekit]

Dwarf A: "Oh my God! That warrior stole one of our gears! Get him!"
Dwarf B: "Yessir, I'll just go cleave the monk in two first, then w-"
Dwarf A: "What?! Can't you see? That WARRIOR has our GEAR! Get HIM!"
Dwarf B: "But Sir, the monk in the back there doing cartwheels, right next to the naked dancing Elementalist, sh-"
Dwarf A: "Do you see the monk holding a gear? Hmm?"
Dwarf B: "Well, no..."
Dwarf A: "And who, may I ask, is holding a gear?"
Dwarf B: "...the warrior."
Dwarf A: "Now, need I remind you of the historical and cultural significance of our beloved Gears, again?"
Dwarf C: "Oh, hell."
Dwarf B: "No Sir! We'll attack the heavily armored guy with the magical protections surging around him, and damned be the rest! Sir!"

*absolute, gut-busting, near-hysterical laughter!!*

Grenth curse you, Mraezk! The monitor wiped off easily enough, but the keyboard didn't survive the sudden Pepsi-tsunami!

heheh thanks for making my day, hilarious! (I was in need of new keys anyways :P )

Thank you Mraezk for this answer to the point of Rekit... Couldn't have said better!

awww come on it's not such a stretch, those quirky folks they keep behind closed doors at Anet have shown before an off-beat sense of humor we all enjoy, Rodgort/Trogdor, the Ogre Slaying Knife, etc etc

(which, on a completely off-topic note, I found a wep in Cantha this past weekend that had a "dmg +10% vs. Ogres" mod on it, could make that Knife the 'leet' Green to have :P )

[Gangrel]

http://forums.gwonline.net/showthread.php?t=383267

Just a small reminder for the ones that don't read the ritualist forums.

(It's NOT the link to the other discusion about this.)

[ccrazool]

http://forums.gwonline.net/showthread.php?t=383267

Just a small reminder for the ones that don't read the ritualist forums.

(It's NOT the link to the other discusion about this.)

(Conjecture in January) < (real life test results by hundreds of gamers last weekend) The "Urn Effect" is real, and requires immediate attention.

Do the right thing, ANet! Give me 60 plat! Er, I mean, Do the right thing, ANet! Fix the "Urn Effect"!

[Straccan]

AAAANNeeeeeeeet, hellloooooooo!!

Cantha is in ashes, it's burning, fiiiix it!

[Oxana]

Hello.

I know about the book trick. Why does ANet create spells that do not work for ritualists.

You get attacked immediately.

The best way to use them is to exploit the AI. This is not okay.

[Brainbasher]

The best way to use them is to exploit the AI. This is not okay.

truer words have not been spoken yet.

[Garreth MacLeod]

Just my $.02.

The issue with the Ritualist skills will need to be fixed, unless there is some reason they are considered more detrimental to the "mob" than anything else going on.

In regards to the other various "tricks", a lot of people are calling them exploits. Having played this game since release and seeing what ArenaNet does when people take advantage of exploits, I think it's fairly clear the ArenaNet doesn't consider those "tricks" to be exploits. Not sure what they consider them though. Alternative solutions maybe? I don't expect them to be done away with and some of the explanations I've seen given in this thread do make some of them seem more plausible.

[salaboB]

The issue with the Ritualist skills will need to be fixed, unless there is some reason they are considered more detrimental to the "mob" than anything else going on.

I'd remove that unless.

The AI in GW has been demonstrated to have absolutely no judgement. That includes when there is no keg present, you can still manipulate and abuse them. (And the AoE run change made it even easier than it used to be)

The best thing ArenaNet could do right now is remove any way for players to control who the enemies attack. (And possibly add random targetting in, if they actually want a "challenge". That's the easiest way they have available to do it) Short of that, they'd need to overhaul their entire enemy AI so that it becomes less abusable. Any time you can predict exactly what something will do, you can beat it every time (If it's possible for you to do so :P)

[Findariel]

I'd remove that unless.

The AI in GW has been demonstrated to have absolutely no judgement. That includes when there is no keg present, you can still manipulate and abuse them. (And the AoE run change made it even easier than it used to be)

The best thing ArenaNet could do right now is remove any way for players to control who the enemies attack. (And possibly add random targetting in, if they actually want a "challenge". That's the easiest way they have available to do it) Short of that, they'd need to overhaul their entire enemy AI so that it becomes less abusable. Any time you can predict exactly what something will do, you can beat it every time (If it's possible for you to do so :P)

Yes it's true that monsters can be rather easily manipulated but then again, I'm not against some form of manipulation - most mobs aren't that smart! And well .. if it were possible to let ettins behave less intelligent then summit I'd wholeheartedly agree!

But the stupidity of monsters while you hold a torch or gear, like they're some kind of blinding, dazing, stupefying, hypnotical thing is really the ultimate example of the ultimate silly AI behaviour.

So yes, away with it - unless the AI can make a difference between a gear and a Scepter of Orr ...!!