55 Legal or Not?

[Nathardia]

You sure you arn't new, or you just never tried to use their support before?
Because I don't agree with you, I'm automatically a troll. Hurray for uninformed opinions!

Yes, if you DID had a clue, you would have known that this forum has an excellent Search feature, which easily enables you to find the Anet statements.

Besides, you're the one stating stating "it's illegal", so you're the one that has to back it up with a proper thesis. But I guess you didn't learn that at the University?

[Stupidname]

Yes, if you DID had a clue, you would have known that this forum has an excellent Search feature, which easily enables you to find the Anet statements.

Besides, you're the one stating stating "it's illegal", so you're the one that has to back it up with a proper thesis. But I guess you didn't learn that at the University?

No, I said it was exploiting and explained my reasoning. Looks like you didn't learn reading comprehension too well.

[Nathardia]

No, I said it was exploiting and explained my reasoning. Looks like you didn't learn anything in elementary school.

Your reasoning has been proved wrong by 99% of the posters in this topic. Guess you didn't even finish your elementary school as well?

And you still keep whining about it -on a community forum- that can absolutely do nothing about it, whether they agree or disagree. GWO is NOT Anet's development department (meaning: we can't change one single bit of the GW source code).

[Harshateja]

All of this argument about how bots hurt the economy is so hipocrital. If a player acts or plays like a bot, that means he can hurt the economy almost as much. I don't hate 55'ers by any means but I do think that banning people who farm for a long time is a plus. The evidence is so obvious.

[Phoenix of Fire]

A 55 monk always have 5 superior runes, wich means: he gets 5 times -75 hp = - 375 hp, so its health will be 480-375=105 (add-50 focus = 55 health)
but there are only 4 main attributes per class (apart from warrior class)
wich means to have 5 superior runes means you need to put atleast 1 double superior rune wich doesnt seems to be right:

I Think they should just fix runes:
Current stacking situation:

Runes of Vigor: Minor, Major and Superior eq. 30,40 and 50 HP
these runes doesnt stack thats ok right. even if u put 5 runes of superior vigor u wont get more then 50 HP

Attribute Runes:
Fore example Superior Smiting Prayers give +3 attribute and u loose -75 HP,like with Superior vigor u can put 5 on ur armor, if u do so u only receive 1 time the +3 attribute bonus but u receive 5 times the -75 cost :S

They could fix this so u loose only 1 time -75 hp and get 3 attribute bonus with 5 superior runes of the same type, this means the max health loss due to superior runes and -50 focus can only be 4*-75= 300, 480-300=180 (180-50 of focus item) = 130HP

So basicly the need to nerf the -75 helath loss due to a double sup rune of the same type
Wich means no more 55 monks :O, but 130 monks, wich means its harder to play them or even not possible ^^

Take a gander at why you don't get more than 50 health, or why you don't get more than +3 when you add more than one of the same rune. Read it very very closely. It says "Non stacking" next to the positive enforcement of the rune. Now look at the -75 on the rune. Does it say non-stacking? Nope. Everything in Guild Wars stacks, unless stated otherwise.

[GurggleD]

How is lowering your life giving you an advantage? Increasing your chances to die is imbalanced in what way? Lower life doesn't give an advantage, or help you. So there is actually no exploit. And if you still insist there is, you'd better look up the word "exploit" in the dictionary to make sure you know what you're talking about.

The 55 Monk takes less damage w/lower life while protective spirit is active, but that doesn't mean that less life = better. The 55 monk can stand there and take hits. It's able to farm certain areas by itself. Can other builds do these things too? Yes.

[Nathardia]

Take a gander at why you don't get more than 50 health, or why you don't get more than +3 when you add more than one of the same rune. Read it very very closely. It says "Non stacking" next to the positive enforcement of the rune. Now look at the -75 on the rune. Does it say non-stacking? Nope. Everything in Guild Wars stacks, unless stated otherwise.

Exactly!

[Zion Farbow]

dont nerf or change the 55s!! i just made one and i need it for gold!! >_<

its my only way to get my 15k armor for my asn and also to get rares >_<

[Stupidname]

Your reasoning has been proved wrong by 99% of the posters in this topic.

I'm sorry but "it isn't fixed, there is no exploiting" and "well, Arena Net hasn't said anything about it" does not counter my point, nor does it prove me wrong.

And you still keep whining about it -on a community forum- that can absolutely do nothing about it, whether they agree or disagree. GWO is NOT Anet's development department (meaning: we can't change one single bit of the GW source code).

Go write to support about something and see what you get.
Let me help you along - you get told to post your concerns on a fansite forum. GWO is the most populated, by far, of the forums (probably because you can't read anything without signing in) and is one of the two english forums with more consistent CR appearances.

Take a gander at why you don't get more than 50 health, or why you don't get more than +3 when you add more than one of the same rune. Read it very very closely. It says "Non stacking" next to the positive enforcement of the rune. Now look at the -75 on the rune. Does it say non-stacking? Nope. Everything in Guild Wars stacks, unless stated otherwise.

"Non-stacking" was added very recently probably to tell n00bs whether or not something stacked.

[Cynix]

All of this argument about how bots hurt the economy is so hipocrital. If a player acts or plays like a bot, that means he can hurt the economy almost as much. I don't hate 55'ers by any means but I do think that banning people who farm for a long time is a plus. The evidence is so obvious.

Not quite... having a live person farming isn't that big of a deal to the economy. The reasons for this are the simple restrictions of life - a person cannot play constantly, they have real life to attend to, and a live person can (generally) only farm using one account at once. Bots on the other hand are different. A person using a bot can farm using as many accounts as they want and have the cash to buy and a bot is not subject to real life restrictions, they can play 24/7 without a problem. Even a real person farming 1 account for 14 hours per day is much much less of a threat to the economy than one person using bots to farm 5 accounts for 24 hours per day.

Besides, if Anet banned farmers guildwars would lose a good portion of its players. Farming and/or grinding and MMORPGs basically go hand in hand. In MMORPGs most of your status in the game is directly related to how long you play, and I couldn't take my 'skills' from one MMORPG and expect to be instantly as good in a different MMORPG. Whereas with FPS games skill matters a lot more, plus I can practice in one FPS and take my skills directly to another FPS where, after about 30 hours to practice, I will be almost as good as I was in the FPS that I used to play. In short, farming (gold/items/faction/fame/etc.) is one of the biggest points of playing the game.