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  1. #31
    I got few of the Gnomon dvd's and it really helped alot...
    Scott Robertson dvd helped me so much, I learnt alot from them.
    http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/dvds/sro09.html

  2. #32
    Try searching for some websites with forums that cover the art style that you like. There's probably a huge chibi artist community out there and all they talk about is how to improve their chibi style.

  3. #33
    try these tuts http://www.howtodrawmanga.com/tutorial.html it says they're about anime, but it covers a lot of basic stuff for kinda every style of drawing with things like positioning of eyes & stuff from different angles & body proportions & so on, just take a look at it I say

  4. #34
    Here is a question that I have, see if anyone can be of help.

    How to get my line to be thin and clean?

    http://www.alien1452.com/zboard/data...4alien21_1.jpg
    Here is an example art work from Alien 1452 (MAD MAD WORK!!!)

    http://www.alien1452.com/zboard/zboa...esc=asc&no=257(and keep this link secret.. since it is such morale crusher...)

    As can see, the lines are utral fine and crisp, which I have trouble to get my line to be like it. Any suggestions? I usually use Photoshop, and sometime flash for vetor. I know one way would be to make you work with Pen (by phtoshop too, or with a real ink pen on paper), but I am not very skill at that. Also making a high res with ultra zoom won't help much, as It become hard for me just to focus on such small part, which warp the larger picture.

    So, any suggestion on this issue? Thank you.
    Last edited by actionjack; 16-08-2006 at 21:59.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by actionjack
    Here is a question that I have, see if anyone can be of help.

    How to get my line to be thin and clean?

    http://www.alien1452.com/zboard/data...4alien21_1.jpg
    Here is an example art work from Alien 1452 (MAD MAD WORK!!!)

    http://www.alien1452.com/zboard/zboa...esc=asc&no=257(and keep this link secret.. since it is such morale crusher...)

    As can see, the lines are utral fine and crisp, which I have trouble to get my line to be like it. Any suggestions? I usually use Photoshop, and sometime flash for vetor. I know one way would be to make you work with Pen (by phtoshop too, or with a real ink pen on paper), but I am not very skill at that. Also making a high res with ultra zoom won't help much, as It become hard for me just to focus on such small part, which warp the larger picture.

    So, any suggestion on this issue? Thank you.
    The Pen tool in photoshop is a good way to do it. Just open your lineart in photoshop and go over your lines with the pen tool.

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by actionjack
    Here is a question that I have, see if anyone can be of help.

    How to get my line to be thin and clean?

    http://www.alien1452.com/zboard/data...4alien21_1.jpg
    Here is an example art work from Alien 1452 (MAD MAD WORK!!!)

    http://www.alien1452.com/zboard/zboa...esc=asc&no=257(and keep this link secret.. since it is such morale crusher...)

    As can see, the lines are utral fine and crisp, which I have trouble to get my line to be like it. Any suggestions? I usually use Photoshop, and sometime flash for vetor. I know one way would be to make you work with Pen (by phtoshop too, or with a real ink pen on paper), but I am not very skill at that. Also making a high res with ultra zoom won't help much, as It become hard for me just to focus on such small part, which warp the larger picture.

    So, any suggestion on this issue? Thank you.
    When inking go in with a really small crisp brush and just ink over everything first. Then maybe try a slightly larger brush to thicken up any lines to add values and what not. That's what I do with my pens when I actually do ink things.

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by actionjack
    Here is a question that I have, see if anyone can be of help.

    How to get my line to be thin and clean?

    http://www.alien1452.com/zboard/data...4alien21_1.jpg
    Here is an example art work from Alien 1452 (MAD MAD WORK!!!)

    http://www.alien1452.com/zboard/zboa...esc=asc&no=257(and keep this link secret.. since it is such morale crusher...)

    As can see, the lines are utral fine and crisp, which I have trouble to get my line to be like it. Any suggestions? I usually use Photoshop, and sometime flash for vetor. I know one way would be to make you work with Pen (by phtoshop too, or with a real ink pen on paper), but I am not very skill at that. Also making a high res with ultra zoom won't help much, as It become hard for me just to focus on such small part, which warp the larger picture.

    So, any suggestion on this issue? Thank you.

    It's definately vector...but I don't mess around with that all too often. My guess is that it was very clean line art done by hand, then imported into Illustrator and touched up in there.

    Oh and as a good ref. and community there's www.conceptart.org .

  8. #38
    There isn't anything wrong with copying, as for drawing you have to copy something until you've learnt proportions and techniques. But, just copying one style or one source isn't the way to learn. In all arts, you need to draw inspiration and learn from many different styles!

    Most importantly, if you look at a picture and think "I really like that!" take a good few minutes to look at that picture closely and think WHY you like it. Always think like this when you draw, and it'll help you self critique better as well as develop your own style. There's nothing wrong with drawing in comic book, manga, cartoon or realistic styles if that's what you like; just don't do it blindly.

  9. #39
    What I did to start off was:
    • Found a set of images of what I wanted.
    • Used paintshop to put a general shape together: torso/arms/legs for the top, legs for the bottom, resized to fit.
    • Printed it out.
    • Traced it & drew additional details
    • Scanned it, used paintshop to move around & erase the parts I'd screwed up.
    • Redrew what was needed, rescanned.
    • Colored.
    • Put it on Imageshack
    • Posted it.

  10. #40
    I think this may be what he meant by draw in 3d:

    2d - 3d


    I say this because, this is more of a "drawing" aspect, where as the others mentioned are more of a shading aspect, which are two very different things in drawing.

    Also, originally was said "i like chibi style ( as it seems to be easier, and cool looking )" you should ask yourself, before you start that.. It may be easier, but is it what you really want to be doing? If it is, then great. But I think it could be bad if you really wanted to go into photoreal art but had only done chibi style, because I think its kinda a hard transition.

    Anyways, my tips are: Learn what you like - not what is easiest. (Unless thats really what you like xD)

    Don't give up and say you're done when you still feel something is lacking. Show other people if you have to, to get an idea of what is wrong. Then try to fix it, if you can't then keep trying. Look at other similar work if it is something like proportions or shading, positioning etc - it could help.

    For starting, draw for yourself. Don't embark on things for others because you will probably get bored with it. Getting ideas from others is fine, but what I'm saying is don't get caught up into having to attempt to draw something you don't want to, because it will then lose the fun aspect of it.

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