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My Map isn't much different from Quintus's just using Guild Wars official maps (except for Battle Isles.)
Also, a bit different for trade routes.
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it is a fair bit different in that on Quintus's map Cantha is relativly due south of Tyria, if slightly to the west, where as your's is way south-west and the hostile stretch would take up a good deal of the ocean, not a sea-like patch as suggested in the manuscripts.
edit: Quintus, i have added to the map, putting an alternative Cantha-Elona trade route, avoiding that hostile sea. the route is in yellow
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Both maps are fairly good, though I think yours may be slightly less accurate in Cantha placement Durza the Shadeking, my reasoning stated below. But more accurate in regards to corsair activity and a better scale for the battle isles.
The Nightfall manual states that Corsairs control the waters between the southern rim of Elona and the north-west of Cantha, that would imply Cantha is slightly south east of Elona, not west as showen on your maps.
By the way, the manual states Cantha not Shing Jae as an individual location, you may want to broaden your small red box Quintus Antonius.
Edit - Looking at the maps and the trade routes, why would trade be set up with Amnoon Oasis? Their is no civilisation there, just some ghosts, might want to take that off the canthan trade route. Also Fahranur is an empty recently excavated city, might want to take that off the alternate canthan route. I doubt ships would dock at either location.
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The red box is where Corsairs are found in Cantha. Broadening it would include areas Corsairs are not found. Shing Jea is part of Cantha, just like Istan is part of Elona.
Also, while it seems economically illogical, it makes sense that the trade routes also correspond with the Corsair routes because the Corsairs are not going to sail an area where there is no booty, and as such, they will be on a path similar to the Canthan trade routes. We also have to take into account sea currents and wind patterns which sailing vessels are wholely dependant.
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unsure about the Amnoon Oasis bit, because i only did the alternate Cantha Elona one, although at some point there could have been people there, and also the Crystal Desert was a sea at one point, so it could have been a southern trade route to Ascalon. as for Cantha's placement, I myself thought that it was south-east of Elona, untill a little research dug up that in the Factions manuscript it says that Cantha is south of Tyria, supported by 2 Canthan NPCs in LA. the positioning in Quintus' map would probably be closest. until A.Net actually release something on their site, kinda like a 'reveal-a-section-per-chapter-release' world map, our guesses are the best source for a world map...
edit: only just saw your post Quintus. the only piece of info in regards to the corsair activity in that sea is that they search for hidden coves. they could use those coves to launch raides out into the greater ocean, or raids on Istan, Kourna and Shing Jae
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Talk to the Canthans in Amnoon. The trader there says that the Emperor granted his family exclusive trade rights in the Crystal Desert. So there is definitely a trade route into Amnoon from Cantha.
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I'm guessing Amnoon exports more then it imports. Going out could be salt, bones and other desert items. Going in would be food I suppose.
Quintus, in your map, it shows the corsairs are mainly in the red square which is in Kourna. While there is a dense population there, there is also many corsair camps in Istan. Namely the swamps. It also makes sence to have quick trade routs for the items they steal on a different province.
In reguards to my map, looking over what has been said, I see that it may be a bit off with Cantha. Yet, if you look in Mehti Keys *SP?* you find a Corsair ship with a huge block of Jade on it. I guess it could be possible to haul jade all around to the west side of Cantha to sell it, yet it seams more economlicly *Sp?* efficent to sell on the side nearest to the sea.
Also it may not be saying that Cantha is to the east. What it may be saying is that the Corsairs(Elona) and Pirates(Cantha) navigate and control almost all the sea between Tyria, Cantha, Elona and the lands beyond.
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it could be possible, but it would be more likely that they just control a section between Elona and Cantha (as per the manuscripts). if it was the entire sea/ocean, then either there wouldn't be the transport routes because of it being too hard to navigate (not to mention ships being destroyed by cyclones), or the pirates would not have as much control due to navies (Istan at least is known as a naval power).
just a thought, would the fact that there are cyclones in that area of water suggest that either Elona is equatorial, or that Tyria is equatorial and Elona is south of the equator?
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Deserts usually exist on the tropics, not at the equator. It's likely one tropic runs through the Crystal Desert, and the actual Tyrian Equator runs through Elona.
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not really so relevant, but there are corsair camps in the caverns too if you wanna add to where corsairs are.
im curious where trades to the northlands are, maybe to the very far off west side? could that mean if we go there we wont encounter charr who would be east? i suppose thats for another thread but im jsut curious about the northlands
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