Ah, I see what you're saying now. There was a misunderstanding. We don't actually disagree at all.Originally Posted by Quintus Antonius
The problem here as I see it is that you (the general you, not one person in particular) are trying to approach a fundamentally moral idea from a scientific viewpoint. This is where we get into trouble. You're right, scientifically there's no valid way to prove that the actions of the White Mantle leadership were evil. That does not change the fact that they were, however. This is where science fails. You can use its inherent neutrality to justify all sorts of heinous things.
If this discussion is going to be approached from an exclusively scientific perspective, it doesn't belong here.