6v6 is here to stay FOR GOOD (MERGED)

[sahlakh]

But do you think that those 73% will be playing HA regularly from now on? If you would have a poll only for people who actually play HA, I'm sure the result would be pretty different. HA players don't want 6v6, those who want/wanted it are PvE:ers, Arena Players and GvG:ers who don't play alot of HA. They don't really care, but figure that "what the hell, a change might be make HA more fun/easier to get into". So they try it, notice the new metagame, play for a while - but then get tired of it for the same reasons as before the change. In the long run the change to 6vs6 won't have any affect on the "atmosphere" or whatever of HA. It won't do anything except crippling the gameplay and reducing the HA communty.

The poll also had an option, "I don't play HA". Anyways, the number of people who dislike the change still seems low to me.

I'm not surprised the people who used to play HA a lot don't like the change. But remember, the change wasn't meant to piss off existing HA players, it' goal was to attract new players to a "dead" place, and based on the figures, it wasn't a bad idea.

[Tucks]

The poll also had an option, "I don't play HA". Anyways, the number of people who dislike the change still seems low to me.

I'm not surprised the people who used to play HA a lot don't like the change. But remember, the change wasn't meant to piss off existing HA players, it' goal was to attract new players to a "dead" place, and based on the figures, it wasn't a bad idea.

TA has always been more dead then HA. You were lucky to get more then one district in Euro/International servers. Compare that to HA... Why mess with it?

[Zui]

But do you think that those 73% will be playing HA regularly from now on? If you would have a poll only for people who actually play HA, I'm sure the result would be pretty different. HA players don't want 6v6, those who want/wanted it are PvE:ers, Arena Players and GvG:ers who don't play alot of HA. They don't really care, but figure that "what the hell, a change might be make HA more fun/easier to get into". So they try it, notice the new metagame, play for a while - but then get tired of it for the same reasons as before the change. In the long run the change to 6vs6 won't have any affect on the "atmosphere" or whatever of HA. It won't do anything except crippling the gameplay and reducing the HA communty.

Even if the size of the community stays exactly the same, meaning Heroes' Ascent community looses as many players as it gains, 6 vs 6 still allows for easier PUG formation, and means there are more teams in toumbs at any given time. The fact you could form an IWAY team in under two minutes was one reason alot of people played it. Now you can form a poor balanced in under two minutes! Lol. I think that does change the atmosphere, although not very much...

[Mathius Clarkus]

i prefer 6v6 to 8v8 - easier to get a group easier to organise, new tactics and we all ready have 8v8 for gvg - if people miss 8v8 that much - go do gvg.

[eowen]

there is nothing more to discuss, polls have shown people prefer 6v6.

wether or not 6v6 is better or not than 8v8 has no importance. People who prefered 8v8 need to stop trying to make people who like 6v6 look like noobs. We all know the noob callers are infact the noobs themselves.

I would trust a pve monk with rank 0 more than a pvp monk rank 6 all earned on IWAY warrior.

[Tucks]

there is nothing more to discuss, polls have shown people prefer 6v6.

wether or not 6v6 is better or not than 8v8 has no importance. People who prefered 8v8 need to stop trying to make people who like 6v6 look like noobs. We all know the noob callers are infact the noobs themselves.

I would trust a pve monk with rank 0 more than a pvp monk rank 6 all earned on IWAY warrior.

I would trust the iway warrior, because they have 10x more experience, are mor eliekly to know builds/counters and know maps. Also in the last phase of iway (im gunna shocked to hear myself say this) it took skill to run because it was balanced and not overpowered and counters were standard in most teams. Thats why most people moved onto builds like bloodspike and ViM who were interested in easy fame.

I dont play iway or anything like that, but i still have more respect for them then most.

i prefer 6v6 to 8v8 - easier to get a group easier to organise, new tactics and we all ready have 8v8 for gvg - if people miss 8v8 that much - go do gvg.

GvG is completely different to what HA was. Thats like comparing apples and oranges.

[David Holtzman]

The poll also had an option, "I don't play HA". Anyways, the number of people who dislike the change still seems low to me.

I'm not surprised the people who used to play HA a lot don't like the change. But remember, the change wasn't meant to piss off existing HA players, it' goal was to attract new players to a "dead" place, and based on the figures, it wasn't a bad idea.

I think you're taking the conclusions of the figures too far Empeh. The poll asks which you enjoy, making no real reference to how often you play. All it shows is that a majority of the voters prefer the 6v6, not that 6v6 is more played now than 8v8 was. It's also entirely possible that the people who liked 8v8 didn't vote because they had left the game. Really, the only figures that would allow us to come to these sorts of conclusions are games played before/after, people entering before/after, and people consistently playing before/after.

[ZiegDivine]

I think you're taking the conclusions of the figures too far Empeh. The poll asks which you enjoy, making no real reference to how often you play. All it shows is that a majority of the voters prefer the 6v6, not that 6v6 is more played now than 8v8 was. It's also entirely possible that the people who liked 8v8 didn't vote because they had left the game. Really, the only figures that would allow us to come to these sorts of conclusions are games played before/after, people entering before/after, and people consistently playing before/after.

Another "figure" which should be included, but won't, is the number of good or at least decent players in HA. There's no real way to measure it, but from my own experience the overall skill in HA has taken a dip. That's why, in my opinion, 8v8 > 6v6, no matter what a poll shows.

[Wuzzman]

I've read 3 different forums and listened to a lot of chatter in HA and before and after the fights and I'd describe the reactions as mixed at best. But of course I know that forums aren't representative so ... perhaps he's right ... just perhaps.Who is this "everyone" guy, I'd like to have a word with him.Ah, well, as long as the spirits are entertained it's all right I guess. But how many of those will buy Nightfall?

pve'ers buy nightfall for the most part the people who buy nightfall don't give a damn about hero ascent.

[Wuzzman]

there is nothing more to discuss, polls have shown people prefer 6v6.

wether or not 6v6 is better or not than 8v8 has no importance. People who prefered 8v8 need to stop trying to make people who like 6v6 look like noobs. We all know the noob callers are infact the noobs themselves.

I would trust a pve monk with rank 0 more than a pvp monk rank 6 all earned on IWAY warrior.

I wouldn't trust a pve monk period in pvp. Considering that r6 kids who can't monk because they play iway all day DO NOT PLAY AS MONKS, I'm ok.