Translations of Chinese GW:EN Lore Info

[Andrea DS]

and my version about the dwarves

Spoiler

The Great Destroyer has already been exiled to the depths. No one shall never speak of his name again, never set him loose from the depths and bring destruction.

Every dwarf must have heard of the legends of the Great Dwarf Guardian. many of the religious dwarves still believe before the appearance of humans, the Great Dwarf Guardian created the dwarven race at Anvil Rock. A part of the dwarves believed that there was a great battle between their god/gods/God and the evil forces. The discovery of a tome which was said to be the Tome of Rubicon, which was created by the Great Dwarf Guardian himself, in Sorrow Furnace will change the history of the myth of the dwarven race.

After stopping the Summit Dwarves’ attempt to obtain the prayer/inscriptions which could summon the Great Destroyer, High Priest Alkar led an excavation team to the Summit Hall, and tried to bring the relic of the dwarven race back home. After High Priest Alkar has cracked the codes of the prayer/inscriptions, he discovered that it did not only contain the battle between the dwarves and the evil forces sent by the Great Destroyer, it also told: The Great Destroyer promised to rise from the depths of the earth, conquering the whole world. The war between the Great Dwarf Guardian and the Great Destroyer will focus on the world. In the text of the prayer/inscriptions, there was no words on which side will win, but did point out that the dwarves will, because of this war, be changed/transformed forever. (well both is ok i think, we dont know the exact details only by looking at the text right now)

[Quintus Antonius]

I am not so sure about some of the conclusions made in the posts here. I have here translated verbatim 2 passages from the Taiwanese manual. Bear in mind that the Chinese language ( Mandarin, the written form ) is not very precise and a lot of things can be translated in different ways. For example, the dwarfs' Great Protector can be translated as Great Guardian, and judging from the Tome of the Rubicon, can be translated as the Great Creator. In other words,God ( with capital G ) as the Christians know it.

Yes, you are correct about the Mandarin language, however, what laven's translations contain that your's lack is context. We are able to know that the Great Protector/Guardian/Creator is the Great Dwarf because most of these things are attributed to him at some point. He is the protector of the Dwarves, and their creator god. So it's true, that it can be ambigious, but when placed into context, it makes more sense.

Verbatim translations of languages rarely make sense for the reason that languages were not made with translation in mind (except for a few, like Korean), and because English and Norse, which is what "Dwarf" is from, are not a common root language with Chinese, it is even harder to make a 1:1 translation. In this case, I think it is almost 100% certain that it means the Great Dwarf.

[Karuro]

However, in order to follow them to the Grey Coast, she would still listen to their orders

Is that perhaps the Tarnished Coast?

[Andrea DS]

...I think it is almost 100% certain that it means the Great Dwarf.

and i will agree with you as there is nthg by the name of "dwarf guardian" so far in the lore of gw, its possible to be a new god or smthg, but i guess its not likely

and yes, its Tarnished Coast, not grey coast, its my mistake ^^

[lavenbb]

and i will agree with you as there is nthg by the name of "dwarf guardian" so far in the lore of gw, its possible to be a new god or smthg, but i guess its not likely

and yes, its Tarnished Coast, not grey coast, its my mistake ^^

lol, the funny thing is it really says Grey Coast in the manual ><.

I believe these lore are originally drafted in English, then translated into Chinese for the manual, it's bad

[Andrea DS]

i think both is ok, it says 灰暗 so its "grey +dull", "tarnished" is indeed a better word, dont u think so?

if it says 灰色 then no doubt itll be "Grey"

note: anet should hire us to do the translation...

[lavenbb]

i think both is ok, it says 灰暗 so its "grey +dull", "tarnished" is indeed a better word, dont u think so?

if it says 灰色 then no doubt itll be "Grey"

note: anet should hire us to do the translation...

I think it's no coincidence that we both thought of "Grey" before "Tarnished".

Had it used "幽暗", or even a phonetic translation this wouldn't happen :P

[Troal]

Haven't I been sayin that?

Congrats on having a theory confirmed Nanashi.

Spoiler

Depending on how well Morgahn leads Kourna, I may have to re-evaluate Palawa Joko's possible invasion vectors. Ascalon is looking might ripe for the taking right now, especially from the south where there's no Great Wall for protection.

[Quintus Antonius]

I suppose that all depends on the strength of the Forgotten, and the crossability of the mountains to the south.

[Nanashi]

Congrats on having a theory confirmed Nanashi.

Spoiler

Depending on how well Morgahn leads Kourna, I may have to re-evaluate Palawa Joko's possible invasion vectors. Ascalon is looking might ripe for the taking right now, especially from the south where there's no Great Wall for protection.

Same topic yes -nods- But that's not what I said.