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    Quote Originally Posted by aptaleonII View Post
    Personally, i believe the "Land Unwaking" refers to the sunken land of Orr. "Those who seek", i believe, refers to Livia, who mentions she is heading to Arah. Livia looks as if she is after something, possibly the "Answers" mentioned in the riddle, when she finds the Scepter of Orr.
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    An offering to those who seek
    Beyond the mists beyond the dreams
    On distant shores oh a land unwaking
    Answers there lie in waiting


    Maybe it is just a reference to the FUTURE and GW2.
    In Star Trek VI the future was refered to as the undiscovered country, land unwaking sounds similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitriona View Post
    Maybe it is just a reference to the FUTURE and GW2.
    In Star Trek VI the future was refered to as the undiscovered country, land unwaking sounds similar.
    i was thinking the same thing to be honest.

    Land unwaking -> land in dream/imagination -> yet to become real/not there yet.

    Then again the unwaking waters "link" is also possibly another hint that in the future we may get to see Arah, where unwaking (waters) is a reference to the fact the city is currently under the ocean.

    Alternately, "beyond the mists" could be a subtle hint that the city, since its destruction in the cataclysm, can now be found in the mists....

    Theres hundreds of different interpretations of that conversation, sadly, as it is very ambiguous, and to be honest i think its more likely to give you a severe migraine than any real answers :(
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    Remember E3 presentation? That person said that Orr would rise from the depths in GWEN. Gaile corrected him, but he may have erred because it is something that is in development for GW2. Global changes might occur over 250 years: Drakkar Lake will unfreeze and free the beast, LA will turn into desert, Glint will meet her relatives, and Orr will rise to the surface.

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    in silent surf, under one of the bridges is a entrance to a cave my partner found about a month before EoTN came out. There is a mob just over it so be careful about agroing them, but there isnt anything in there and its rather pritty. Theres a ring or something on the floor (going from memory) but its near the little island

    ive marked the spots we think the entrance here:



    This thread reminded me of it last night, but I had to wait for my partner to wake up to pinpoint where.

    Its covered by trees or something, so may not be obvious

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    I was just in there, no little light of deldramore secrets, only a shaddowy figure on a wall above a rock formation looking a little dragon like



    sorry if i got any hopes up :(
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    Quote Originally Posted by coran View Post
    Well this is my first post in the lore forum though I have been lurking around for over a year. I love reading your posts and hopefully this will be useful

    Here is the message:

    Vm'jqqteomn dj'dpjat ipj'attw
    Rthjms'dpt xoada'rthjms dpt'setvxa
    Jm'soadvmd apjeta'jp v'yvms bmivwomn
    Vmaitea'dptet yot'om ivodomn


    The message to the Asura from the 6 gods is a cryptogram (which fits with the Asura being scientifically minded) and can be solved with a substitution cipher where:

    A=S B=U C=* D=T
    E=R F=* G=* H=Y
    I=W J=O K=* L=*
    M=N N=G O=I P=H
    Q=F R=B S=D T=E
    U=* V=A W=K X=M
    Y=L Z=*

    *=There are not any of the letters in the message
    ‘=Space

    So the message reads:

    An offering to those who seek
    Beyond the mists beyond the dreams
    On distant shores oh a land unwaking
    Answers there lie in waiting

    I don’t know what it means but I’m sure you guys will come up with some interesting ideas
    Very interesting and it sparked something in me.

    I noticed that the cryptic message are grouped by ' and after pondering over it, I counted how many groups there are...I got 13.

    So I took the decrypted message and starte counting the letters and I took the 13th letters and this is what I got;

    T-E-E-S-R-A-H-I

    I feed it to my Anagram solver and wa-la! One of the results is this;

    The Arise

    Which I believe to be a clue that points to the Crystal Desert, The Arise can only mean, The Ascension.

    Of course, there are other results like;

    Hi Teaser and I Hate Res

    but The Arise is more relevant to the message.

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    Hm, that's such an indirect clue though. I think this is a case of personal interpretation of something that isn't directly implied.
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    the arise of orr?

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    I wouldn't be surprised if there was a hidden anagram in that text considering the city Rata Sum is pretty much an anagram for Mursaat.

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    Hi there!

    I was reading alll the post in this topic and dunno who was Bahltek (i think i didnt ever meet him :S ) and look on the wiki. I found one interesting dialogue that could be related to this topic:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bahltek on Zehlon Reach
    I've heard rumors of a spirit ship sighted just off this coast. Yes, an authentic, bona fide, ghost ship. Why don't you swim out and visit it? Too bad. In any case, there are dimensions out there other than the one we currently inhabit. This ship is clearly an echo of one of those dimensions.
    Maybe there's something hidden in the north part (i suppose at the end of the coast) like a note, a bridge to or whatever related to the "ghost ship". If some1 could check it... :D

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