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Thread: How dead is HA? I have proof
21-09-2007, 19:17 #111
21-09-2007, 21:04 #112
However, it simply is mind-boggling how people go about the gimmick builds. Noobs play it. Leet play balanced. No, these builds are not so easy to build or play that a Noob can build them and play them effectively to make them popular on their own. Most of these FotMs and puggable builds are made by people with extensive knowledge of the game including skill synergies, tactics, arena mechanisms and what not. Most of these builds were made popular to the mass by good players who got extensive success with these builds. And extensive success quantitatively means fame in HA, does it not?
I'd say that gimmicks are worse these days because there is usually just one of them instead of multiple. If you tomb today, you're going to fight thumper/spiritway on every single map. Where is the fun in that?
And I wonder what rank were you in glory days. Did you get your R9 in 'glory days'. You got it much after that, correct? Also, 'glory days' were actually 'we are all noob days' as the game was brand new and people were still fathoming the game.
21-09-2007, 23:09 #113
21-09-2007, 23:57 #114
Same! I got rank 9 back in the glory days too. December 2005. I was the 4th one in our guild to get it and I was a ****ing scrubby IWAY trapper!
And if we didn't focus on GvG and just concentrated on farming whining noobs back then (up to the point wherein Tiger's Fury was nerfed), I should've been one of the hardcore IWAYers who are now close to rank 15..
I clearly remember the same whines back then. Before, you see people posting in forums complaining about IWAY after IWAY that they face and the funny thing is that these people are those who don't win HoH and/or get beaten by the 3rd IWAY team that they face.
And now, you are complaining about thumpway which you can rape in a few minutes because it's a weak *** build.
When will people stop complaining?
Last edited by kongkingx; 22-09-2007 at 00:14.
22-09-2007, 00:44 #115When will people stop complaining?
22-09-2007, 02:32 #116
New players play builds in HA after they are made popular by others, more experienced people. And rightfully so. That's what I said.
23-09-2007, 01:58 #117
There have been many builds noobs put together and played. Depending on what your definition of a noob is, maybe not. The point is, no build run by 8 bad players should ever beat a build run by 8 good players. This is why PvP isn't fun. Too many bad players, too little skill involved.
23-09-2007, 02:24 #118There have been many builds noobs put together and played. Depending on what your definition of a noob is, maybe not. The point is, no build run by 8 bad players should ever beat a build run by 8 good players. This is why PvP isn't fun. Too many bad players, too little skill involved.
I do however agree that PvP can only be fun if playing against people of your own standard. playing against weaker players in boring because there is no challenge and playing against people stronger than you is boring as well because there is no chance in winning. how do we solve this problem? but shortening the gap between experienced and inexperienced players and the only way to do that is to get rid of elitism.
SOLUTION (you've probably all heard it before but I'll say it again) - get rid of fame and the emotes for it. now many of you may say thats not fair when we worked so hard to get it. boo hoo, get over it. and yes if I was r9+ I would still be here saying this so don't try using that against me.
if any of you want to say I'm just whining that HA is too hard then let me ask you something: whats the difference between you whining about "working hard" for your glorious fame and inexperienced players whining about not having them?
23-09-2007, 03:45 #119
bottomline is that if you got owned and you cried, you're not only a noob but also you're a scrub.
23-09-2007, 11:56 #120bottomline is that if you got owned and you cried, you're not only a noob but also you're a scrub.