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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin View Post

    I would post screen comparisons, but I only have one of the Ice Cave dish. But I believe the shapes are different as well.
    It's different. The one in the Ice Cave is of the Deldrimor Storm Beacon model, not the Charr Flame Altar one. Hence, there have been Dwarves in the Ice Cave..oh, what a surprise.

    I'm actually convinced that the Cauldron of Cataclysm is just using the Charr Flame Altar model just like the 2 Swords are using the FDS model. That would be a lot more plausible than the Charr copying the Cauldron several times for watever reason or the Altar in Crystal Overlook being another 'Ancient Weapon'.

    Also, could you think of the origin of the items? The Mists? The Gods? IIRC I read somewhere that Maegdar and Sohothin were created or at least kept in Arah before they were given to the Ascalonian Royalty.

  2. #12
    If that information on the swords is legit, it would be in either the Movement of the World, or the Ecology of the Charr, the only two sources where we have information on the swords. I'll look now.

    No find in those two places - therefore until further notice, I'll mark as not legit.

    What you said about the Cauldron is possible - personally I am hoping that Adelbern and Rurik's swords get a new skin - at least in color - for GW2. For example, Magdaer becomes a white colored fds. I highly doubt that the idea of Magdaer and Sohothin were made up with Prophecies.

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    To expand on Sohothin:
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiki article
    It is believed that when the rightful heir to the throne of Ascalon returns with this sword or Magdaer, the souls protecting Ascalon City from the Charr invaders will finally rest
    Truelly Return of the King if it's, you know.. Our character.

  4. #14
    I would consider Stormcaller a powerful weapon. Anything that could be used to manipulate the weather should not be taken lightly.

  5. #15
    I don't think the ice cave dish is a mere torch holder for the dwarves. It makes noise and looks like a satellite dish. I always associated it with the nearby seeker. They're possibly not from our world and they sort of resemble a stereotypical earth alien; I figured it was some piece of their magic/technology that got them here (Tyria).

    That's not an official lore forum theorem, it was just what I thought the designers were trying to imply.

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Karuro View Post
    To expand on Sohothin:

    Truelly Return of the King if it's, you know.. Our character.
    Hell yeah, we own the throne of Ascalon.

    All of us, 1 seat.

    And thus a new form of PvP is born...

    Unless of course, it's our job to accompagny Prince McWimp to Rurik's fiery, fiery grave on the Ring of Fire, face lots and lots of dangers in getting him the sword, and then escorting him back to get a nice pat on the back, a thumbs up and a "job well done".
    At which point, I wish there was a Regicide option.

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin View Post
    Used by Abaddon and his followers which is what turned the Crystal Sea to the Crystal Desert.
    i thought about this one, and i decided to do a little more research into it. i remember seeing a concept art in the prophecies manuscript that had a picture of some blue crystals when it was talking about the crystal desert. it says looking at each grain of sand closely reveals that it is actually pointed crystals.

    so i went back because i thought i saw some crystals when going around in the desert. the first place i recall seeing crystals was dragons lair, and i was right, but who could miss them? they are huge.
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    this is in the outpost. the crystals are giant, and formed in a doorway im assuming to enter the main mission. next i entered the mission and this was what i saw in the first room
    Spoiler

    giant crystals. of course if each grain of sand is supposed to be a crystal its obvious since glints lair is encased within a grain of sand the whole thing should look like this. however the closest place to dragons lair on the world map is elonas reach, and doing the bonus of that mission i also recalled something blue. so i checked it out and i found these crystals where you are supposed to revive the first priest. (i didn't check the other points )
    Spoiler

    sorry about my characters fat head, i forgot to zoom the camera in.

    anyways, yea crystals in the crystal desert big deal right. but the only other structure that resembles these crystals are the ones in the searing. this picture is of the crystals that fell down from the sky in ascalon for reference.
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    i just thought they looked really similar, so id like to agree with your idea that it was used by abbadons followers. but the fact that every grain of sand is supposed to be a crystal, said by the manuscript, is.. well... a lot of freakin crystals. i dunno, right now it kinda fits i guess?
    Last edited by Gmr Leon; 13-11-2008 at 22:56. Reason: Added spoiler tags to page-stretching images.

  8. #18
    Kero, just a heads-up since you haven't been around in awhile, but whenever you have large images like the ones you posted, you can add spoiler tags, [spoiler|] [/spoiler] without the | of course, around the [img] [/img] tags to prevent page stretching. It makes reading the page much easier.

    Anyway, as to that point, that's held my curiosity as well. I've sometimes thought that this:

    Quote Originally Posted by The Scriptures of Abaddon
    The twilight sky shattered and stars streaked down upon the Forgotten armada
    Implied the "stars" as being the Searing crystals which turned the Crystal Sea into the Crystal Desert. Over the many millennia these crystals would weather away and become the grains of sand, joining with the already existing sand.

    The only part that discounts this is that the Scriptures of Abaddon are noted as being written in 1 BE, but I see it as being possible that those didn't completely turn the Crystal Sea into the Crystal Desert. I suspect that may have just been an eventual effect of the war as that magic was possibly more abundant then, as the Bloodstones had yet to be forged.

  9. #19
    While it would be a lot of crystals, you got to remember that the sand is like the sand in real life - in relation to size. And the sand would be made the same way (i.e., erosion of rock, soil, etc from them rubbing against each other and from water rubbing against it). So a majority of the desert would be made by a combination of the Crystal Sea's water and the Crystals.

    Of course, there would have been land there prior to the use of this, as when it was a sea, it is heavily hinted that there were islands, and in the Desolation *which is in fact, part of the Crystal Desert* seems more like the shore of the Crystal Sea - so that would have been a basic desert already *belief that the sulfur is where rivers and lakes once were* or at least there would have been sand.

    So I would argue that the Crystal Desert is in fact a combination of regular sand and crystal sand. As there are clearly regular rocks in the Crystal Desert, and plants cannot survive with crystals as the soil, they need regular soil - so the Scar would have plenty of regular soil.

    Whether or not that "copy Cauldron" was the cause of the Crystal Desert being formed and not the whirlpool Abaddon seemed to have made according to his scriptures (which, imo, sounds a LOT like the Searing taking place - with meteors falling from the sky) is not relevant to the fact that not EVERY sand in the Crystal Desert/Desolation is in fact a tiny crystal. But now they are so similar due to being so tiny, that the human eye cannot see a difference.
    Last edited by Konig Des Todes; 14-11-2008 at 00:10.

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin View Post
    While it would be a lot of crystals, you got to remember that the sand is like the sand in real life - in relation to size. And the sand would be made the same way (i.e., erosion of rock, soil, etc from them rubbing against each other and from water rubbing against it). So a majority of the desert would be made by a combination of the Crystal Sea's water and the Crystals.

    Of course, there would have been land there prior to the use of this, as when it was a sea, it is heavily hinted that there were islands, and in the Desolation *which is in fact, part of the Crystal Desert* seems more like the shore of the Crystal Sea - so that would have been a basic desert already *belief that the sulfur is where rivers and lakes once were* or at least there would have been sand.

    So I would argue that the Crystal Desert is in fact a combination of regular sand and crystal sand. As there are clearly regular rocks in the Crystal Desert, and plants cannot survive with crystals as the soil, they need regular soil - so the Scar would have plenty of regular soil.
    That's pretty much what I was trying to say in my post..

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