unanswered questions post Battle for Los Angeles---ermmm Lions Arch

[superiorrunes]

okay ive got some questions:

where have mhenlo and cynn and the rest of the brat pack been this whole time?

how did evennia get lost in ascalon? something else is up.

what is going on with langmar and thackeray? they disappeared together? im suspicious. will a few intimate nights of survival in the krytan wild find langmar moving in on a certain mesmer's relinquished territory?

Nobody ever explained where blimm and zinn got a dead seer to perform their experiments on. did this come about by sinister means? if so what will the consequences of a crime against the seers be?

Livia "reluctantly" assuming leadership of the shining blade? in this timeline, has she already been to arah or is the shot of her finding the scepter from the end of eotn a look into a future endeavor of hers?

[Konig Des Todes]

Five people cannot be everywhere, especially when one of them, their leader no less, is thinking of retirement. Regina said somewhere that the Murro updates, and the events within them, was meant to show that the hero/adventurer that we play cannot be everywhere at once and cannot be at every threat. The same probably goes for those three. Though it seems that our little henchmen were in Kryta at the time.

Evennia most likely didn't get lost - but we'll see this in the next chapter of Guild Wars Beyond, most likely. Do note that the War in Kryta is obviously meant to act just as an arc not as the whole of the new updates. More is to come.

Langmar and Thackeray didn't "disappear together" so much as "they acted as a diversion and got cut off together" - there's a different implication behind how you worded it, especially considering the rest. I doubt that they're going on a honeymoon.

I can however answer your final question. Straight from Linsey mouth: Livia finds the Scepter of Orr after the War in Kryta. We know, thanks to Ree, that she does find it and does have it - though not for very long - and now we know thanks to Linsey (though it wasn't a public statement) that Livia finds the Scepter after the war.

Do note that the Scepter might not be in Arah.

[Gmr Leon]

It seems likely Evennia may have gotten caught up with something in Ascalon, likely not getting lost, but perhaps helping the Ascalonian military, caught during a charr raid, or forced into Ascalon City or elsewhere due to a massive charr assault. It's quite unclear.

As to Blimm and Zinn, it's equally unclear, if not more so, and while my first thought is that there won't be any significant consequences to it, due to the scarcity of Seers, there may certainly be. What they will be, precisely, is difficult to say. If I am not mistaken, we never learn of the results of their research and experimentation. (I've yet to follow the War in Kryta stuff beyond the setting up of their lab.)

Livia's reluctance, I suspect, is due to her nature. She will do anything for Kryta, and this passionate dedication, I imagine she is aware, could be to the detriment of those she commands.

[CHIPS]

okay ive got some questions:

where have mhenlo and cynn and the rest of the brat pack been this whole time?

how did evennia get lost in ascalon? something else is up.

what is going on with langmar and thackeray? they disappeared together? im suspicious. will a few intimate nights of survival in the krytan wild find langmar moving in on a certain mesmer's relinquished territory?

Nobody ever explained where blimm and zinn got a dead seer to perform their experiments on. did this come about by sinister means? if so what will the consequences of a crime against the seers be?

Livia "reluctantly" assuming leadership of the shining blade? in this timeline, has she already been to arah or is the shot of her finding the scepter from the end of eotn a look into a future endeavor of hers?

Mhenlo and gang is probably busy with something else.

Evennia didn't get lost. She either got captured by the Charr or is onto something big.

Langmar and Thackeray can be anywhere. Hard to predict right now.

Yeah I wonder where they found that dead Seer. They either killed one from Silverpeak or Ring of Fire. Otherwise they found a slain Seeker somewhere. Talking about Seers we know very little about them too.

Livia is gonna to become very powerful. However I wonder why she need the Scepter of Orr anymore, now that the White Mantles are defeated.

I got my own questions. We were told the most surviving White Mantles joined the Shining Blades to form the Seraph. However I wonder what happened to them those that refuse to join. Where did they retreat to? Where are they hiding? Will the Seraph go hunt them down now?

I also wonder about those warlords that will appear in Kryta.

[raspberry jam]

Regina said somewhere that the Murro updates, and the events within them, was meant to show that the hero/adventurer that we play cannot be everywhere at once and cannot be at every threat.

The what now updates? I missed something and what is Murro?

Do note that the Scepter might not be in Arah.

If the cutscene after EotN shows her finding it, it's been niftily hidden atop a rock sticking out of some river.

[Gmr Leon]

The what now updates? I missed something and what is Murro?

He's referring to these. Murro is a historian recording the events of the War in Kryta from an in-lore perspective.

[raspberry jam]

He's referring to these. Murro is a historian recording the events of the War in Kryta from an in-lore perspective.

Oooh. I remember reading these early on but I sort of forgot about them. Thanks!

[BrettM]

Livia "reluctantly" assuming leadership of the shining blade? in this timeline, has she already been to arah or is the shot of her finding the scepter from the end of eotn a look into a future endeavor of hers?

Livia's encounter with the Scepter of Orr is still in the future.

Livia tells us in EotN that she's looking for the Scepter because of the many factions struggling for control of Kryta. So far this has not made sense, because all we've seen are Shining Blade vs. White Mantle. That doesn't look like "many factions" to me, and we did win that war without the aid of the Scepter.

However, according to posts of the timeline found in Ghosts of Ascalon, Kryta is not united under Queen Salma until 1088 AE, which is about nine years after the war we just finished (1079 AE). Why would it take so long?

The only reason I can see is if a number of factions spring up following the defeat of the Mantle. There may be some groups that feel they can take control while Salma's forces are still recovering from the BLA. Others may be maneuvering to get the ear of the new queen and manipulate her for their own purposes. Perhaps other claimants (or even the former king himself) will show up and assert that they have a better right to the throne than Salma -- finding support among those Krytans who are uncertain of the legitimacy of Salma's claim or who are suspicious of the Shining Blade because of their past reputation. Hopefully we'll get more information on this as GWB continues.

So, if these factions are forming now, then Livia now has her stated motivation for seeking the Scepter. But how did she know at the time she explained it to us in EotN? A bit of a mystery there.

[Konig Des Todes]

Along with factions springing up after the defeat of the Mantle, there's the fact that it was reported that there were several factions during EN - which was a year before the "end" of the war.

So the White Mantle's forces were defeated (and they once more became a headless chicken but manage to survive in GW2), but that's not peace. We know the WM survived, so they may have become like the SB right there and then - becoming a bunch of hit-and-run battles against the newly formed Seraph and the various unseen warlords.

I certainly wouldn't doubt that there'd be factions popping up after the WM's "defeat" - but there would be those around before said defeat. Hence how Livia knew of them.

[BrettM]

I certainly wouldn't doubt that there'd be factions popping up after the WM's "defeat" - but there would be those around before said defeat. Hence how Livia knew of them.

Perhaps. Livia is a native Krytan, so she could well be aware of the existence of certain groups that are unknown to us as non-natives. However, these groups must have been lying pretty low, since there is no mention of any of them contributing so much as a kid with a slingshot to the civil war or practicing any form of organized resistance. Any struggles among them or with the Shining Blade must have been very low key during EotN and WiK, and perhaps only Livia was looking ahead far enough to see that the factional conflicts would become a serious problem.

It would have been nice if there had been some casual mention of other factions during WiK, either in Murro's reports or in some bit of NPC dialog. Just a line or two providing a little foreshadowing, instead of springing this situation on us cold as GWB continues. And I'm pretty certain that GWB will deal with this, even if we never get to see Livia find the Scepter of Orr. It could even be that one of these factions is responsible for whatever happened to Evennia.