Yeah, we ran through a few of the quests, and then went back and tried the Hard Mode ones. And...
What in the hell are you guys taking in with you?
I haven't played in about two years or more. Raye and I did not discuss what builds we were taking whatsoever. When I talked to her about it after, I found out that she didn't bring any condition removal, was wearing the wrong armor, and her hero monk was set up for Urgoz runs. I brought a generic axe build, Evis, Exec, Body Blow, that overpowered dwarf KD skill, and Frenzy - yes, Frenzy. Oh, and to make things more interesting I'd been talking with my friend Jack Daniels a bit. Mmmm.
We died once, when I err7'ed right in the middle of the pool toward the end of that afflicted swarm quest. There was no skill required. Likewise for hard mode, it was the same thing with more afflicted and more damage - had we bothered planning, we could have brought extra AoE heals, or more skills to exploit the AI. But we didn't.
If someone that hasn't played in two years can go in with a bunch of heroes, completely unplanned, and utterly destroy it, then you would think that the people who have been still playing all this time would be better at it. C'mon... You can better yourselves. I promise you that becoming better players does not make the game less fun.
Unless, of course, you find it enjoyable to die all the time in normal mode.
In which case, carry on. But stop complaining about how much you're dying on the forums.
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10-07-2011, 06:15 #211
Last edited by shawn; 10-07-2011 at 06:21.Blinkie Ponie Armie [BPA] :: The Order of Dii [Dii]
10-07-2011, 07:02 #212
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Shawn, I think a lot of complainers rely on the standard lulwat builds, you know, sabway et al. But a lot of that new content is kinda geared to challenge those builds (I assume). So if you're running something else, then you're set.
It's like running a MM-heavy team in a golem-heavy zone. Not gonna happen.
10-07-2011, 08:16 #213
Actually, it seems like a lot of the new content is running those builds. Pretty sure I saw an afflicted necro running some sort of discrap, and the Mesmers seem to be hitting the Mind Wrack/Esurge combo pretty hard as well. Now, if any of them could heal/prot for crap (think some of the Am Fah had SoA, not sure), we might have a problem...but they just line up to die pretty quickly, especially if you've got any AoE (splinter et al)
10-07-2011, 09:22 #214
(Minor spoilers ahead, for those you have not played them)
Rescue at Minister Cho's Estate
Search for survivors at Minister Cho's Estate.
See Initiate Zei Ri for your reward.
Here you not only have to find them, but keep the survivors alive. If one dies, you will fail the quest. The Initiate will rezz himself & you will rezz too at a shrine.
Cleansing Shenzun Tunnels
Defeat the Afflicted in Shenzun Tunnels.
See Initiate Zei Ri for your reward.
28 Initiate Jaw Long
28 Initiate Shuji
28 Initiate Kan Wu
28 Initiate Shunyuang
28 Initiate Zei Ri
Here, the extra initiates are allowed to die, Zei Ri will rezz automatically. You rezz at a shrine.
When Kappa Attack
Meet Ministry Agent Oroku in the Undercity.
Escort Oroku to the corrupted locations so that he can purify them. x of 3 purified. Oroku must survive.
In this quest, you have to protect Oroku. There they have put a warning in the quest description, why not at the Cho's quest?
Light my Fire
Meet Imperial Guard Lei Jeng in Xaquang Skyway
Find and capture the missing Fire Drakes: _ of 5 remaining.
Prevent the Am Fah and the Jade Brotherhood from taking the Drakes.
Again, you don't know if every Drake has to survive (it doesn't matter) to be able to finish the quest or if it will auto-fail when one dies.
Long things short: quest design for WoC is not well implemented so far.
10-07-2011, 09:40 #215
Wasn't aimed at you, as I agree with you - the quests are boring as ****.Blinkie Ponie Armie [BPA] :: The Order of Dii [Dii]
10-07-2011, 09:59 #216
Very annoying quest. Those survivor should auto res after a while. Keeping dumb NPCs alive is not fun. And even less fun with only 4 players.
Your monk is the ONLY person responsible for keeping those survivors alive. So if he fails just ONCE it is party fail. And those dumb NPCs will go around those Afflicted, knowing full well they will explode on death. So ONE mistake it is gg.
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10-07-2011, 10:16 #217
To me there is really no difference between NM or HM as the reward is the same much like WiK.This is why I do it in NM beside I just want to relax and don't want to micromanage heros.
I only did one WoC on my Ele.
10-07-2011, 10:47 #218
When I brought Koss or some other crap along instead on previous characters, it was always a much worse ride.
When you only do it in NM, you will get it much later.
Last edited by Lytha; 10-07-2011 at 10:51.
10-07-2011, 12:07 #219
also, the enemies you describe are suppose to be that powerful or it makes no difference who you fight, the inflicted however are suppose to be a weak but large amount kind of enemy.
a bit like the zerg rush, they are really weak but in numbers are quite powerful and that's how the inflicted should be.
Incorrect, hard mode was put into the game because some people did not feel normal mode was difficult enough and were complaining about constantly c spacing enemies. That is in fact why I brought up hard mode, because some people were complaining these quests were too easy. Hard mode is not simply there for more rewards, it's there for those who are getting bored with the difficulty of normal mode.
10-07-2011, 15:40 #220
Maybe not all of Shiro's corruption vanished when we killed him, and there's someone experimenting with it on the Afflicted to make them more dangerous. Very possible, and we've already seen that the corruption(or something close to it) is still around in "When Kappa Attack".