Thanks for the great help people :)

[BrettM]

Then I'd concentrate on Vanquisher and Cartographer together

Except that his original post expressed a concern about already spending too much time on GW, though he has not done much more than complete the campaigns. If you figure an average of 45 minutes per vanquish and you do the Zaishen vanquish every day, it's going to take nearly five months, and commit you to probably 100 hours of play aside from anything else you want to do. You will have to play daily or make it up by putting in extra hours on the weekend. If you only play every other day, or every third day, then it will take you 10-15 months to finish up those titles. I don't think these titles are worth it for someone who just wants to get 30/50 as quickly as possible. These are major time sinks that are only really appropriate for players seeking GWAMM and/or 50/50, and someone concerned about being a GaL (get-a-lifer) should probably avoid them.

[Alaris]

Vanquishing is really time-consuming. I did legendary vanq in about 200 hours (carto with texmod included), pros might do it in less.

[Sir Jack]

So faction(JQ/AB/FA) is my next stop then? and a PVP title is worth a whooping 3 points wow!

PvP titles aren't that easy to get though, and JQ/AB/FA aren't really considered PvP areas. However, if you aren't interested in the Luxon/Kurzick title tracks, you could get a PvP title out of it.

PvP titles:
- Zaishen title track (need rank 3, 1000 points)
- Gladiator title track (need rank 3, 2000 points)
- Champion title tack (need rank 3, 100 points)
- Hero title tack (need rank 6, 1000 points)
- Codex title track (need rank 3, 2000 points)

Gladiator is done in Random Arena, you get 1 point per win, and an additional 1 point every 5 wins in the same streak, so wins 1-5: 1 point, 6-10: 2 points per win and so on until a 25 win streak, then you're thrown back to Random Arena. You also get bonus points every 5 wins. If you complete a 25 win streak, you get a total of 100 points. In other words, you will need AT MINIMUM 20 complete streaks or 500 games and at worst 2000 wins.
Additional bonus: you get a Gladiator's Strongbox per 5 wins

Champion is 1 point per won GvG between 2 guilds having a rating of 1200+. If you're not in the current top of GvG players, you're not going to get this title.

Hero title track is done in Heroes Ascent. You get 1 point per win, with additional points for consecutive wins. It ramps up until you get 40 points for your 13th consecutive win and every win after that. Disadvantage is it's completely teambased and getting into a team might be hard as a beginner. Additional bonus: Hero's Zaishen Strongbox after each 3 consecutive win. If you win and hold the Hall of Heroes, you get to open the Chest

Codex Arena is 1 point per 5 wins, additional points per streak. Rank 3 will take at worst 10.000 wins where you get to the 5 win streak every single time.
Additional points: Strategist's Zaishen Strongbox after each 5 consecutive wins

Zaishen title is gotten by opening the Zaishen chest. You get 5 points every time you open the chest, so if you have 200 Zaishen Keys, you can get the title. To get the 200 Zaishen Keys, there are some ways to do this:
- 5000 Balthazar Faction per Key, so 1.000.000 Faction gets you the title. Since the changes to JQ/FA/AB, you get Imperial Faction from those places. You will natually gain Balthazar Faction in those areas and Imperial Faction can be traded for Balthazar Faction in a 3:1 ratio, 3.000.000 Imperial Faction is thus enough to get the 200 Keys (though you'll have gathered Balth Faction from playing and it'll be less than that)
- Buy Keys from players. Price is around 4.5-5k per key, so about 1000 plat or 1.000.000 gold is enough to buy them.
- Trade Gold Zaishen Coins and money. This will take 200 Gold Zaishen Coins and 20.000 gold. To get the 200 Gold Coins, you need 10 Silver Zaishen Coins and 50 gold each, so 2000 Silver Coins and 10.000 gold. To get the Silver Coins, you need 50 Bronze Zaishen Coins and 10g, so 100.000 Bronze Coins and 20.000 gold. In total, you'll need 100.000 Bronze Zaishen Coins and 50.000 gold.
- A Mix of the above works as well.
Additional reward: opening the Zaishen Chest gives you a number of rewards:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Zaishen_Chest
While some of the rewards gotten from the chest are worth A LOT of money, on average the reward will be less than the 5000 gold you spend if you buy them from players. On the other hand, if you get one of the very rare rewards, you can use that to buy more Keys to progress with the title.


You'll need to choose one of the titles and the method of acquisition, Champion is pretty much a closed door and Codex Arena is pretty slow. On the other hand, Gladiator and Zaishen are fairly attainable in reasonable time. The "easiest" and fastest one would be the Hero title though, but only if you have a competent team that can get a lot of consecutive wins and hold the Halls. A good Guild could be vital for the latter.

[Zahra]

Except that his original post expressed a concern about already spending too much time on GW, though he has not done much more than complete the campaigns. If you figure an average of 45 minutes per vanquish and you do the Zaishen vanquish every day, it's going to take nearly five months, and commit you to probably 100 hours of play aside from anything else you want to do.

I understand the concern. However, our original poster did complete all 3 campaigns in about 2 months. Which is about a mission per day, on average. And while Factions missions are about 20-30 minutes each, Prophecies missions can take a good hour each, easily. And that's not counting the quests between each mission. So what I'm saying is that the OP is already spending about 45 minutes per day, on average, in the game.

Of course Vanquishing and Cartography are time consuming, but the OP has also said he didn't want to go after gold sinks. So basically, his choices are: gold sink or time sink (at least a little of at least one of those). Lady had offered a choice with a lot of gold sink titles (Skill Hunter plus Lucky and Unlucky come to mind, and the last two are not quick titles either), my selection presented another perspective.

The OP is free to mix and match, to decide that he does not need to get to 30/50 before GW2 comes out (assuming it comes out in 2012), to take it a point at a time, etc. There's no rush and there are a lot of ways to get to 30 points (one could also look at Rubi's guide to 30 (or 50) points for another perspective).

[Alaris]

To me, it should really boil down to what the OP likes to do, because there's lots of ways to get those points, and very little actual need to get them. RL sounds like a good idea too.

[Lady Rhonwyn]

Also, lucky/chests/etc I would avoid, they are relatively expensive if you're just going for HoM points.

Lucky and unlucky only needs to be level 2. And that is not too hard to get as long as you bring lockpicks with you while playing.

[Alaris]

Oh right, maxing it is a pain but level 2 should be real easy.

[kinya]

Thanks so much for the input guys :D

Anyway my canthan protector is now 11/13 and I realize i left with
1)Minister Cho's estate and
2)Zen Daijun

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Miss...iews_(Factions)

Being a nightfall born character, how do I access to these 2 locations?

"For Factions characters, complete the quest A Formal Introduction, acquired from Master Togo in Linnok Courtyard. Characters of other campaigns can travel north by northwest through Sunqua Vale from Shing Jea Monastery. If in a group with a Factions character with the above quest incomplete, entry is prohibited."

I have no idea how to access Sunqua Vale/Shing Jea Monastery in the first place..

[Fluffball]

You have to get there via the explorables to the north. North, West, South, in a loop, rather than straight West.

[Lady Rhonwyn]

Thanks so much for the input guys :D

Anyway my canthan protector is now 11/13 and I realize i left with
1)Minister Cho's estate and
2)Zen Daijun

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Miss...iews_(Factions)

Being a nightfall born character, how do I access to these 2 locations?

"For Factions characters, complete the quest A Formal Introduction, acquired from Master Togo in Linnok Courtyard. Characters of other campaigns can travel north by northwest through Sunqua Vale from Shing Jea Monastery. If in a group with a Factions character with the above quest incomplete, entry is prohibited."

I have no idea how to access Sunqua Vale/Shing Jea Monastery in the first place..

Go to the Marketplace. Then go to Kaineng Docks. Talk to First Mate Xiang and he'll bring you to Seitung Harbour. From there, go to Saoshang Trail and from there you can go to Shing Jea. Then on to Sunqua Vale and on to Minister Cho's Estate. After you did that one, you must go back to Seitung Harbour and walk to Zen Daijun, by the way of Jahai Bluffs.

Edit: you can go everywhere (except that area where you started as a NF character and pre-searing in Prophecies) with every character. Except when you go to a "foreign" continent, you must walk "backwards". So, if you want to do the missing missions in Prophecies, walk east from Lion's Arch.