Megaupload died today; totally not SOPA related

[Alaris]

Publicity.

Big record labels can push even bad music on consumers by flooding the airwaves and putting the CDs and posters everywhere.

Exposure, exposure, exposure.

[RD]

If you want corporations to die, then vote with your wallet, and buy stuff directly from artists or use services that are actually fair to artists and customers alike.

I already do this /flex

[Kael Valeran]

Publicity.

Big record labels can push even bad music on consumers by flooding the airwaves and putting the CDs and posters everywhere.

Exposure, exposure, exposure.

Exactly, but artists get only a tiny fraction of the music. Whats stopping artists from moving elsewhere where they get a bigger portion, say 90% of sales??

[RD]

Exactly, but artists get only a tiny fraction of the music. Whats stopping artists from moving elsewhere where they get a bigger portion, say 90% of sales??

Consumers.

[Kael Valeran]

Consumers.

Ok, let me get it straight, consumers brought this on themselves because they are into mainstream music and do not seek alternate markets?

Does this mean that artists also cannot find alternative markets and then promote sales of their own album on their own website.

For example NewMusicFeeds.com

What's stopping already established artists from selling their music via other online stores. I'm sure if Justin Bieber decided to support the no-middle man policy, loads of people will follow him isn't it. (except such a scenario will not be possible)

[Zayren]

You know Alaris, after reading three of your most recent posts on here and the other piracy thread, I have to say that I think this forum really really needs...

Spoiler

A like button.

I just want to promise

if this ever happens

I will stop posting.

So I guess start the campaign in full if you want?

[RD]

Ok, let me get it straight, consumers brought this on themselves because they are into mainstream music and do not seek alternate markets?

Yup, plus they continue to buy what they're told to.

What's stopping already established artists from selling their music via other online stores. I'm sure if Justin Bieber decided to support the no-middle man policy, loads of people will follow him isn't it. (except such a scenario will not be possible)

Plenty of musicians do. Think of how many horror stories you have heard of artists who could not wait to break their deal with their label. Justin Bieber has no incentive to support the no-middle man policy because he would not be nearly as successful if he did that. He, like most pop musicians, is just a creation of some group of executives who came up with a plan to sell crap to little girls. My little cousin has a doll of him that sings "Lovefool" and she got really mad and did not believe me when I told her that was not his song.

Frankly, I have a hard time accepting any of this crap as real music.

[The Praetorian]

@Praetorian: fighting evil with evil does not make the world a better place. If you want corporations to die, then vote with your wallet, and buy stuff directly from artists or use services that are actually fair to artists and customers alike.

Piracy encourages DRM and SOPA. It does nothing to discourage corporate evil.

I'm not sure how downloading music is evil, especially since it's legal where I live, but is downloading a song really any different than recording a song on cassette tape?

[Kael Valeran]

Plenty of musicians do. Think of how many horror stories you have heard of artists who could not wait to break their deal with their label. Justin Bieber has no incentive to support the no-middle man policy because he would not be nearly as successful if he did that. He, like most pop musicians, is just a creation of some group of executives who came up with a plan to sell crap to little girls. My little cousin has a doll of him that sings "Lovefool" and she got really mad and did not believe me when I told her that was not his song.

Frankly, I have a hard time accepting any of this crap as real music.

Its a shame its not mainstream yet then. How long do label deals last anyway? I think most girls will actually support Justin Bieber if one day he publicly announces that he's moving shop. Of course, most labels won't allow him to do that so he has to be intelligent to keep it silent until a public show big enough occurs, etc.

[Giggles]

I'm not sure how downloading music is evil, especially since it's legal where I live, but is downloading a song really any different than recording a song on cassette tape?

Then there's this way of looking at it.

"“I look at the Internet as the new radio,” Young explained. “I look at radio as gone … Piracy is the new radio, that’s how music gets around.”"

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/...times-better/#

Mainstream radio is pretty awful now. At least it is around here and has been for years. The DJs don't make their own programs anymore, they're told what to put on. The only way you're going to get variety is if you use web radio, college radio or pirate random stuff. Even wandering around on iTunes (and similar) is limited with their 20 sec only clips that start at random points. You can't get a good sense if you like something or not many kinds of tunes when you're offered it like that.