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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaris View Post
    The musician appreciates the music that he creates, or at least, I would hope.
    Ah, then that begs... do you have to be a musician to produce music?

    Or even human?

    We don't think of whales as musicians... yet they produce something that we can agree as distinctly music like, if not music.


    And then there's human music theorists. I'd say they produce meta-music, but not music strictly speaking. It's more an experimentation with sounds. However, that is not to say that those sounds will or cannot be incorporated into music... thus elevating those sounds to musical status...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaris View Post
    When we go into the realm of psychology or sociology, the metrics we use are a lot less precise than in physics. But that has not stopped us from understanding a lot of stuff about people, how they think, why their consumption patterns are like, what brings them joy, etc.

    Also, exceptions to the rule =/= there is no rule.

    Likewise, popular or popular over time, both can be correlated with "good". You'll get a much better measure of "good" if you factor out stuff like age of consumers, advertising, etc.
    You're talking about something else entirely other than some music being "good" or "better" than other music. There is no metric for this. We can use metrics such as purchasing, listening, remembering, etc., but none of those translate to "good." Without a definition of "good" music, operational or otherwise, it's impossible to make the claim that some music is just objectively than other music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaris View Post
    The musician appreciates the music that he creates, or at least, I would hope.
    I agree. And many still do, thankfully. You just wouldn't find them in the popular charts.

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    Lots of animals produce music. Birds anyone?

    Most or all humans produce music, though musicians are musicians by devoting more of their life to their art. Well, in theory.
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    Lots of animals produce music. Birds anyone?

    Most or all humans produce music, though musicians are musicians by devoting more of their life to their art. Well, in theory.
    I dunno about you, but if I had any degree of success as a musician... I'd devote the first half of my life to hookers and blow. The second half to appearing in terrible Pirate movies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotdogtesting View Post
    I dunno about you, but if I had any degree of success as a musician... I'd devote the first half of my life to hookers and blow. The second half to appearing in terrible Pirate movies...
    Too late, it's been done. You'll have to come up with a better plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDarken View Post
    I actually spent a lot of time listening to Pachelbel yesterday. Canon in D is beautiful.

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    But then it was reborn gloriously with Eric Satie.

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    But then it was reborn gloriously with Eric Satie.
    It is a nice arrangement.

    I heard a woman playing it on violin in the Times Square station yesterday, which is what made me listen to it. It was really beautiful.

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    Downright haunting...

    Last edited by hotdogtesting; 20-06-2012 at 20:48.

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