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    Three Reasons Why Guild Wars 2 Will be Better Than Star Wars: The Old Republic

    You can already see the signs of dissention in Guild Wars 2's official forums. One player complains that Guild Wars 2's combat isn't anywhere near as action-based as TERA's (and therefore it sucks), another person says leveling feels too much like a grind, and some of ArenaNet's diehards say it feels too different from Guild Wars 1 for their tastes. It's the sort of critical ball that started rolling with blinding speed about a month after Star Wars: The Old Republic's release and led to one of the most negative player backlashes in MMORPG history. But despite all that, I don't think Guild Wars 2 will suffer the same fate. Sure, some of these concerns are valid, but I think ArenaNet has made enough good decisions to keep fans happy.

    1. Story Doesn't Get in the Way of Gameplay

    Star Wars: The Old Republic's greatest gift to the MMORPG community was the idea that quests didn't have to consist tiny reams of text; instead we learned that they could have all the depth of interactions in games like Mass Effect (if you're willing to throw tens of millions of dollars into the effort). The problem is that most of us treated that gift like I treated the Pogo Ball I got for Christmas in 1985 -- we had fun with it for a few days and then left it to rot in our closets. Doled out in such heavy doses, SWTOR's fully voiced interactions ended up paradoxically subtracting from the MMO experience.

    Guild Wars 2 also places a heavy emphasis on voiced storylines, but it doesn't make you carry them around your neck and they don't take precedence over the action. Cinematic interactions usually only pop up during your class questline, leaving you to enjoy them at your leisure so you can spend the rest of your quest time with your friends without such interruptions. GW2's story always stays in the background, as it rightfully should in a genre that revolves around working with other players instead of forging ahead alone. Best of all, you'll never feel like you over-leveled an instanced story quest thanks to GW2's scaling system.

    2. Guild Wars 2 Understands MMORPGs Should Be About Player Interaction

    Say what you will about the quest structure, think what you might about the dynamic events, but I still think the greatest aspect of Guild Wars 2 is the way it encourages us to play together. Gone are the angry moments when another player swoops in and steals your kill (and thus your quest objectives) in almost every other MMO; instead, you get a rare sense of satisfaction out of helping players in need because both players get experience points for the kill. Guild Wars 2 even forges a mild sense of community by only allowing you to fight alongside server mates in World-versus-World combat, while it also allows some social fluidity by letting you visit another server at your leisure.

    I do have my worries about the system, such as the way it sometimes seems to discourage one-on-one chats because you just finish the kill and get on with your lives, but even at its weakest it avoids the sense of isolation that build up while in SWTOR's cinematic world. Even if we don't always talk to other players, we're at least interacting with them, and I think most players will agree that Guild Wars 2 gets that crucial factor right.

    3. Guild Wars 2's World Feels Much More Alive

    I deeply enjoyed some of the class storylines in SWTOR, but as I played I was always a little disappointed by how little life there seemed to be in the world itself. Patrolling elites essentially dodn't exist, and most clusters of quest enemies just stand around waiting to be attacked. In retrospect, I think this killed the enthusiasm for SWTOR more than any factor -- there's rarely was a sense that you can just go out and slaughter random enemies and get some excitement out of it. Once you leave the vivid cutscenes, most of SWTOR's galaxy is a pretty lifeless place.By contrast, Guild Wars 2's dynamic events go a long way toward breathing a sense of life into the world of Tyria, and I still find myself surprised by the little quirks. Just this weekend I alt-tabbed in what I thought was a safe place northeast of the Norn capital of Hoelbrak, and I tabbed back in to find myself under attack by an enemy I couldn't see at first. It turns out that a bunch of evil Norns were using a trebuchet to hurl rocks at me from what seemed like half a mile away! That... that was so awesome. Tyria earns much of its charm from little touches like that, but even the simple shifts from night to day provide an essential dose of immersion that SWTOR doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feime View Post
    You can already see the signs of dissention in Guild Wars 2's official forums. One player complains that Guild Wars 2's combat isn't anywhere near as action-based as TERA's (and therefore it sucks), another person says leveling feels too much like a grind, and some of ArenaNet's diehards say it feels too different from Guild Wars 1 for their tastes. It's the sort of critical ball that started rolling with blinding speed about a month after Star Wars: The Old Republic's release and led to one of the most negative player backlashes in MMORPG history. But despite all that, I don't think Guild Wars 2 will suffer the same fate. Sure, some of these concerns are valid, but I think ArenaNet has made enough good decisions to keep fans happy.
    Let me state a couple of things:
    - tab targeting actually doesn't exist in GW2 in the traditional way. Many skills work regardless of who you targeted, and especially line based skills don't really need a target if you can aim better than what tab proposes. I know my engi shield or guardian flame skill often hits more when I don't tab target than when I do. There's degrees of player skills here, catering to noobs and pros alike. So the action is about as much as TERA's but only if you want it to be.

    - levelling being a grind is stupid. Levelling up to 40 takes less than levelling to 20 in any other mmo. When playing optimally, I estimate 1 hour on average for the entire levelling curve will be possible, which is far better than any other game.

    - I'm a GW1 die hard. I agree, GW2 is different in many ways, especially being a different game *gasp*. I expected an mmo staying as true as possible to GW1 which it is. Many things had to go for that, which is what makes some people think it's too different. I digress. When I want to play GW1, I'll play GW1. The Pvp changed a lot because A.net wanted this game to have long life as an eSport. Because of that, they had to stay with as few formats as possible, which is why virtually everything is a variant of sPVP. WvW on the other hand is the only fun battleground of WoW (AV) but bigger.

    Bottomline: people complain. That's normal. When their complaints are valid, a.net listens. When they are invalid, a.net could ignore them as expected, however more often than not, they explain their point of view which is unique in the industry.

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    why are ppl making stuff like this, you can't compare a generic game with a.....what is GW2 anyway?....

    but to the point, you can say this about every single generic MMO, are we getting more threads about how good GW2 is VS X MMO?
    i like lotro but i don't want someone to ruin it just because something else is so superior, enjoy the game it self not the features that other games don't have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sorudo View Post
    why are ppl making stuff like this, you can't compare a generic game with a.....what is GW2 anyway?....

    but to the point, you can say this about every single generic MMO, are we getting more threads about how good GW2 is VS X MMO?
    i like lotro but i don't want someone to ruin it just because something else is so superior, enjoy the game it self not the features that other games don't have.
    Absolutely. However it was pretty funny back in the prophecies day when WoW started copying a whole lot of features from Guild Wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harniq View Post
    Absolutely. However it was pretty funny back in the prophecies day when WoW started copying a whole lot of features from Guild Wars.
    it's even funnier when WoW faboys said GW stole it, go figure.
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