Support Guardians and Rewards

[Lady Rhonwyn]

I guess I got the impression that maybe some support guardians were getting greens while everyone else was getting rares or exotics. I mean, if they're not actually doing anything but ressing people I can understand they don't get anything. But suppose I'm only using support spells and yells and virtues and consecrations and stuff, without direct damage to the boss or whatever. Do I get the same rewards as everyone who's beating the boss while getting buffed by me?

I usually only get greens (if I'm lucky) while I see everybody around me spamming rares and exotics they have gotten as reward. And I'm on my ranger, who is 100% geared towards damage. So that has nothing to do with it.

But what is a problem is that if you are more geared towards buffing your allies and do do enough direct damage, you will get less loot. And I do believe that that is wrong. I'd say damage is damage, no matter if I do it personally or if I buff others so they'll do more damage.

[Fluffball]

I find that hard to believe.

Really? Details.

It was a quaggan attack that ran in to our keep siege. I hit one of them a single time before they were all dead. Gold credit. It's not rare though, this happens all the time on all sorts of events. On capture point events you get gold if you dive roll in to the capture point at the very last second before it's claimed, even if you never fought anything at all.

It makes sense though, if you didn't get credit for doing almost nothing, no one would ever get credit for anything because there are so many players on each event/kill.

[Alaris]

Yeah, makes sense, provided your contribution is not a lot less than most other...

[BrettM]

I am often amazed at how easily one gets gold for some events. I'm even more amazed at the number of times I've gotten at least bronze for events I never heard of and in which I did not participate, at least intentionally. In many of those cases I never even saw the "nearby event" notification or the orange circle on my minimap, but I assume some random critter I killed must have been connected with it. I almost feel guilty for getting all this free karma and coin for doing nothing that I wouldn't have been doing anyway.

[Alaris]

Admittedly, getting event credit is easy. Like I said, it's getting kill credit which is not trivial, and for me this is directly relevant for the WvW monthly.

Some comments...

If you're specced for damage, that is nice... but you get less kill credits if you are specced for dps'ing one foe than if you regularly hit many foes.

If you get less kill credits for whatever reason, you will get less loot and consequently, less golds. So if you get less golds, it could be luck, your own biased estimations, or it could be that you don't tag as much.

[RabidCoqui]

I got the WvW monthly in a couple of days easily... and this was while I was mainly mapping during that time.

[Fluffball]

Alaris can you guess your WvW kill count per hour? Just curious what a mostly defensive support guardian gets (that's what you WvW with right?)

I'm going to roughly estimate ~40 hours of WvW for me, ~1000 kills for about ~25 kills per hour. Totally rough estimate, based off my thief being my main WvW char with ~150 hours total played on her.

My estimate seems way off to me (a kill every 144 seconds), which is why I say WvW is really generous with kills.

[Alaris]

I actually WvW'ed mostly with grenade engineer and greatsword guardian. I didn't play a defensive build on my guardian in WvW, so the decision is mainly when to use bubbles to save allies vs go in with greatsword to tag more foes.

I honestly don't know how much my kill rate would differ, I would need to collect data for that, I admit this is more impression than actual fact. I don't have difficulty getting my monthly kills, that's for sure... but again, I don't play nearly as defensive/support as I probably could and would in WvW.