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    11th hour WvW ratings shake up - NO RATING RESET

    We’ve been keeping a very close watch on this week’s matchups and, despite our concerns regarding the recent population shifts, it seems that many of the games are quite competitive. At the same time we’ve been evaluating some possible changes to the math we use to calculate ratings. After examining a number of new methodologies for weighting the outcomes of matches we have found that our existing formulas already do pretty much what we want them to do. Certainly none of the candidates that we tried yielded better results.

    In light of the strong community response to the idea of a WvW ratings reset, the results of our ratings formula investigations, and our data on the current matchups we have decided not to reset the WvW ratings at this time. All existing WvW ratings will be preserved and the rating calculation methodology will remain unchanged. Any existing mismatches should be corrected by the system in relatively short order. Now that there is less volatility in the player base for each world we expect the quality of matches to improve more quickly. This is both because the rating system is operating in a less unpredictable environment and because more stable teams tend to produce better results.

    Thank you all for your feedback on this matter, and for your patience while we explored the various options. The community response was a key element in our decision making process.


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    Edit: Matchups site already been edited to reflect predictions for next week with correct ratings.

    I can't help but think ANet weren't sure how to change the math behind the ratings that they reverted it, coupled with the the backlash from the community. I'm just really disheartened that this news came 27 hours before reset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fae View Post
    I can't help but think ANet weren't sure how to change the math behind the ratings that they reverted it, coupled with the the backlash from the community. I'm just really disheartened that this news came 27 hours before reset.
    1) This is not hard math for a company that can run a AAA MMORPG.

    2) Backlash from community was probably a big reason. I tend to believe other methods to calculate rank would not be much better; it's unlikely they implemented a ranking system without doing a minimum of research.

    3) Doubtful that a reset would have changed much about the current ranking anyway. Remember, they were not planning to randomize the server ranks, they were just planning to remove their momentum.
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    =O

    I did not see that coming, again...

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    I do think it would have changed things significantly, as they warned us that a shake up would put some servers in a place they wouldn't normally be in and it would take several weeks to settle down. I'm not sure it would have been as dramatic as, say, Sorrow's Furnace in tier 1, but something like that.

    I do believe community backlash was the biggest factor though.
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    I think the community backlash might have been over-reaction combined with lack of details from ANet.

    From what I know of ranking algorithms (admitted, I know about staircases, which is related by different), the shake-up and instability would likely been hard to notice. But ANet told us one scenario (here, worse-case), and whatever additional details were released once some freaked out was not much and not well advertised... which is typical ANet communication.
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    Lack of details was a major factor. It really sucked balls for a lot of people to play blind this past week. Anet going "we have a new formula but we're not telling, tee hee" was a pretty bad thing to do.

    Oh well.

    In the mean time. Guildie made this and it's keeping me entertained while other guildies freak out. lol.

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    Nice pic.

    Think of it this way.

    The old formula was made to put the servers in rank of skill.

    The new formula is made to put the servers in rank of skill.

    Now please explain why the results between the two formulas would be wildly different.
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    It would initially be wildly different, it would settle down, yes, not disputing that. But we warned there would be a lot of instability, and that's what I'm commenting on. A LOT of servers were counting on there being instability in their favour long enough to get a foothold.

    Alas, this wasn't the case. Back to the way things are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shawn View Post
    hahahahahahaha

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