Dhuum: Ominous Halloween Tidings.

Some of the skills you linked to Konig seem to me like they are not Dhuum's skills, but might belong to a servant of Grenth.

Might belong to a reaper:

Reversal of death

Spell. Remove 1% Death Penalty from target other ally.

Probably belongs to a ghostly ally:

Spiritual Healing

Spell. Heal target other Ghost or Reaper for 100 health.

Ghostly Fury

Spell. Deals 50 damage. Disables Dhuum's Rest for 10 seconds.

Dhuum's Rest 2

Spell. Channel energy towards putting Dhuum to Rest. Easily interrupted. Disables Ghostly Fury for 10 seconds.

Could be a reaper skill, or a temporally player skill:

Dhuum's Rest

Spell. Channel energy towards putting Dhuum to Rest. Easily interrupted.

How do you kill that which has no life!

Sorry couldn't resist. He is/was the god of death after all. Even if you did "kill" him he could change the rules of death, and have them not apply to himself. That and from the skill descriptions it seems we will be putting him back to rest.

Originally Posted by Rob Van Der Sloot

Some of the skills you linked to Konig seem to me like they are not Dhuum's skills, but might belong to a servant of Grenth.

Well, I linked them all as skills used during the battle (or at least found at the same time as those belonging to Dhuum/the battle).

After all, I did say:

Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

A series of skills were found in the dat which has description saying they are used by Dhuum - and others which seem affected/affecting those Dhuum skills.

Originally Posted by Demonia

How do you kill that which has no life!

Sorry couldn't resist. He is/was the god of death after all. Even if you did "kill" him he could change the rules of death, and have them not apply to himself. That and from the skill descriptions it seems we will be putting him back to rest.

He may not have enough sway over the laws of death, we honestly don't know if he ever did for that matter - same goes for Grenth.

Though, it seems to me, that it could be Dwayna, Grenth, and Dhuum all govern or represent one of three aspects of life: Dwayna-Mortal Life; Grenth-Spirit Life; Dhuum-"Death after Death" or death after life in the Spirit Realm (i.e., the Rift/Realms of the Gods).

Would be interesting to see if that is how it always has been with the gods and their governing (that is, Grenth was always a god of death, but a different kind of death than Dhuum).

Maybe it is also maybe possible that we can't kill Dhuum without killing Grenth who's powers might be directly tied to him?

Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

Though, it seems to me, that it could be Dwayna, Grenth, and Dhuum all govern or represent one of three aspects of life: Dwayna-Mortal Life; Grenth-Spirit Life; Dhuum-"Death after Death" or death after life in the Spirit Realm (i.e., the Rift/Realms of the Gods).

Would be interesting to see if that is how it always has been with the gods and their governing (that is, Grenth was always a god of death, but a different kind of death than Dhuum).

Grenth = Spirit Life(or disembodied soul) seems right. But to me Dhuum should = Death(end of mortal life). TBH that may be how they are linked. Grenth could be Dhuum's mortal soul. Maybe Dhuum is already dead, and his soul/spirit(Grenth) already walks the Underworld. Their split may of been what initially cause Dhuum to become such a bastard. Dhuum became a soulless monster of a god, and Grenth usurped him. So in essence the we have a differnet being, but the same personality governing the Underworld.

This is great reading. I only got the chance to do one of the quests, the first one obviously, but thank you for the great discussion and updating wiki so quickly.

I like that Demonia, Dhuum having a mortal soul as well. Polytheism could very well have such a concept.

Originally Posted by Barinthus

I'm wondering if this helps to explain the resurrection in GW.

Seems that deaths under Dhuum are final while under Grenth's reign as God of Death, Grenth permits resurrection to occur.

I thought the same thing. Dhuum represents death from which there is no return; Grenth represents death from which mortals can rise back. That would be why resurrection was possible, and maybe how Grenth got enough help to defeat Dhuum.

I guess most of you saw the quest already, in which our characters help the Reapers to put Dhuum to rest again.

Erasculio

That theory is further supported by the inability to resurrect at all when around Dhuum - via the Curse of Dhuum.

Another post (meep triple posting!).

On the case of Dhuum's "final death" thing:

Originally Posted by The Nightman Cometh; King Frozenwind

The moment we have long dreaded has arrived! Dhuum is breaking free from the Hall of Judgment! Should he seize control of the Underworld, Dhuum's reign will be brutal and uncompromising, for he is the Final Death, and he does not tolerate resurrections or the undead. There is still one slim hope, a shadow of a chance to hinder Dhuum's return. Grenth's seven faithful Reapers will channel their energy in an attempt to force Dhuum back into dormancy. But the Ender of All is a powerful adversary, and the Reapers cannot face him alone. Protect the Reapers while they perform their grim task. At least one of the seven Reapers must survive to seal Dhuum within the Hall of Judgment.

Should you perish in this conflict with Dhuum, do not despair, for your spirit may still contribute to the battle. Mayor Alegheri can speed your spirit's return to the Hall of Judgment, where you may rejoin the fray and assist the Reapers.

The fate of the Underworld depends upon your success! Now you must face Dhuum. I will be here...if you return.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_N...itial_dialogue

It would appear that resurrections are only allowed because Grenth says so. So I guess what determines who is resurrected or not, is Grenth's opinion.